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okay everybody good evening

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a little pre-show here tonight we have

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grant Cameron here we're going to

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discuss the new Tom DeLonge video that

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was just released from to the stars

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Academy the go-fast video and it's

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pretty interesting if you haven't seen

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it we'll have the links up here in

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Twitter and the chat rooms shortly we go

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live here in a few minutes very excited

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about the show also tonight don't forget

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at 9 p.m. Pacific 12:00 midnight on

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stellar calm we'll go live for

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registering for the big launch of the

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social platform you'll be able to go and

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use the promo code Ginny ji mmy Ginny

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and register and get your names reserved

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okay so go and get that done yeah names

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are gonna run out pretty quick so you

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want to go into that that happens at 9

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p.m. Pacific okay we've got been very

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busy here today and wanted to hold off

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on announcing a grant Cameron and what

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we were talking about tonight until

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today because you know it's a sensitive

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issue in the UFO community what these

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videos are what they represent and

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especially after the first two videos

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and the snafu with the number one

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balloon that was released by to the

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and we've got this new video I was you

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tonight we're gonna dive a little deeper

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with one of the best researchers out

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thinks about it and of course we'll open

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up the phone lines and do that too as

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well big show tonight it's the launch of

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on stellar com grant Cameron and the new

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go fast video from to the stars Academy

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in Tom

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okay so here we go we go live in ten

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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947

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we're on the air for the person I've

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been applying there - found under now in

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the possession of the RA the game is

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rigged change the game game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this way

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and kgr a the global radio

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I need your help to get to the

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you listen today too

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with jimmy touch only game change in

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that one

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the spoke radio for the masses

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yeah man today's Tuesday March 13th 2000

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1872 days into the new year just 293

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days left

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we're live from a bunker somewhere in

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downtown Burbank California and I would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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States hither and thither to and fro

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back and forth up and down east and west

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north and south far and near this is

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fade to black

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for KJ Sierra the game changer Network

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and K GRA the planet I'm your host Jimmy

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Church what is crackin how're you doing

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big big big big night on the show

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tonight because tonight we have very

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special guest grant Cameron is here from

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the great white north and he's here to

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help us analyze the new go-fast video

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that was just released from Tom DeLonge

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and to the stars Academy this is video

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number three the number shall be three

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all right tomorrow night radio host Tim

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like maybe your great host you really

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know this subject matter and and so

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Coast time in two hours on stellar

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dot-com will open for registration okay

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so that's gonna go on tonight just jump

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punker cam we've opened up the show

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out there to to get with it and not only

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listen to what Grant has to say about

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this new go fast video very important

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subject but also on stellar and so all

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you have to do is use the promo code

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Jimmy J I am my goes sign up over an on

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stellar reserve your screen name get

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that done register go through the

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process and get it done because it's

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kicking off alright I'm Stella the new

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in the third quarter by the time that

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rolls around all of the good screen

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names and all that stuff into the ones

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million people or more are going to

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COFF button in live radio you don't hear

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and go and get your screen name okay

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what time don't you worry about it

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alright you guys are funny follow us on

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everything is fade to black

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Jimmy Church Jimmy Church radio game

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change or you can go follow like and

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subscribe right now over at Jimmy turret

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radio calm if you want to jump into the

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sandbox get into this oh I didn't say

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hello in any of the chat rooms so let me

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this in real time good evening hello to

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the chat room see see now you guys know

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you got to hear me punch it and

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everything and now you're reading it

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right there see it's all in real time

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Spreaker chatroom we have twitter we

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questions which is hashtag f to be Q you

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that we're gonna do on stellar comm all

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can officially register for on stellar

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get your username now all you got to do

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it's on stellar comm this platform it

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in two short hours this is the first

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social platform to be based on the

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blockchain and because it is first you

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like this try to use and should try to

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use the blockchain and incorporate in

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with the stuff that they are doing and

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gonna use it for our community and it's

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going to be awesome and our community is

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huge and now we have our own platform no

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censoring you can do what you want

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that is going to occur everything that

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just don't know now we have our own and

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it is badass the look of it the feel

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what it is and it's for our community

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don't forget that that launches tonight

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all right the official launch the

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platform where all the action kicks off

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will be in third quarter the platform

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will have its own token economy and for

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the first time our community will have a

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way to support members of our community

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the research who want to write a book or

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new documentary or they have a

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documentary out on everything ideas

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maybe you've shot a video on your cell

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know what when you do that with another

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makes the money everybody but you and

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that's not cool it's not now you have a

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way to go out and get things done so

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think about that all right

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on stellar is gonna prove to be one of

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the most visionary social platforms in

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history and it kicks off tonight in less

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than two hours and a couple of things

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really quick don't forget that the e

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a Jimmy Church radio.com and click on

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their banner which is right there click

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on the banner look at the full schedule

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for the e City Roadshow and go and hang

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out with Ashley and the crew it's

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heading up the west coast right now

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alright now the big news in DC happen

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mm-hmm besides on stellar and Grant

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Cameron being on the show tonight is our

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next event which is contacting the

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desert it's June 1st through the 4th

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2018 in Indian Wells Palm Springs

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California it is the biggest most

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focused largest funnest UFO convention

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in the world that's going down this June

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first now I had mentioned about a month

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ago and this will be up and active in a

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before the end of the week and I can

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announce it either tomorrow night or

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Wednesday night on the show is there's

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an award ceremony awards dinner awards

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banquet that is going down on Saturday

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night and we will have a fade to black

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table okay and I think and I think I

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just got off the phone with them today I

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think there's gonna be 10 tickets

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for you and and your significant other

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maybe people hire yourself but you kind

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of want to bring somebody to something

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like this and have dinner with Rita and

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I and and go through the awards banquet

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ceremony it's hosted by George Noory and

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of course he's going to be there and and

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all of the awards winners are going to

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be there it's going to be great so we'll

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make that announcement here in a couple

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of days and I can't wait to have dinner

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of the table full of fate or not it's

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going to be so cool so that is June 1st

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through the force

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tickets are there while he's selling 300

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that's it only 300 tickets for this up

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there all right let's get this show

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cracking happy birthday to disturbed

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frontman David Draiman

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today is 45 years old Sounds of Silence

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I disturbed as great man I followed them

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when they just a small band they have

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gotten so big that song is amazing you

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know the Simon and Garfunkel song but

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they've gotten what they deserve they

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are truly truly household names now

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David Draiman today is 45

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also today rapper actor common is 46

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I like common cool dude 46 years old

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today

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on this day in history OTD 1781 English

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astronomer William Herschel discovers

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Uranus the seventh planet from the Sun

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1781 but how did the Annunaki right how

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how did the Egyptians how did the

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doggins

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how did what appears to be I mean all of

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the ancient cultures other know about

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the planets out there when you know

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William Herschel with a telescope didn't

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find it until 1781 right you ever stop

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and think about that and I get I do I

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technology I get it when I look up at

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the stars today with my night vision or

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with the telescope or with my naked eye

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and I look at the Stars they look like

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stars how is it that you were able to

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before computers and technology and and

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extremely technical measurement devices

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how are you able to know the difference

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between a planet and a star you know and

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that a planet is orbiting the Sun how

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how are you able to do that

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I'm just how how if you were measuring

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the the precession right the precession

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of the earth you know the the wobble

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that is there every 26,000 years you

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know 72 degrees right okay so and you

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and you look at that and you can measure

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a degree one degree every 72 years of

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movement and right okay so I get it

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today but how if you were putting up a

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stick in the ground a stick and you're

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measuring and you've got some kind of

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and I'm talking about 500 years ago

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right and and you've got some stick in

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the ground and you're moving you know

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how do you know that the ground hasn't

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moved right a little earthquake a little

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shift and that little shift now cancels

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out the degree or all of the

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measurements that you were doing how how

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are you doing this and if the ground

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moved aren't all measurements off if you

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ain't know if this was a thousand years

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ago I don't there are some things this

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knowledge has been handed down this

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knowledge has been given to us man I'm

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serious there's no way it doesn't make

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sense to me there are other things that

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come into play and if you think about it

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the way that we moved with plate

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movement and the continents that wasn't

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even a proven theory proven Theory until

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the 1960

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it was kind of talked about of the 1950s

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but nobody knew about this

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nobody knew so nobody around the world

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was thinking about the ground moving to

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another spot in the ocean right it's

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weird but it was going on so how is it

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possible it's because it was all given

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to us think about that for a second all

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three of the four the number today is

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three three of the four members of

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Metallica

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that's Lars Ulrich Kirk Hammett and

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bassist Jason Newsted all three divorced

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their wives during the recording of the

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black album why because they almost

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didn't get that album done and the

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stress the troubled production

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everything that was going on in the

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black album they divorced their wives

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and that it's a figure of fact 3:30 the

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number today is three all right

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everyone needs to check out Fox's news

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tweet about Trump's commitments about

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space and that we may have a space force

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yeah I heard about that today he was uh

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he was hanging out Gilligan kept moving

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the professor's measuring stick out oh

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he did that's funny that's funny yeah he

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was a speaking to the Marines today and

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said very interesting he goes if Hillary

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would have gotten elected you the

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Marines would not be going to Mars yeah

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yeah pretty interesting got a read

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between the lines when any president

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speaks but that today was pretty

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interesting no doubt about it

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all right tonight very special guest

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grant Cameron's going to be here in a

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few short minutes live from Canada I

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think he's up in Manitoba right I think

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grant is in yeah he's in Winnipeg

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Manitoba we're gonna talk about

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the new video that was just released

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from to the stars Academy and Tom

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DeLonge and I want grants take on things

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that's what's most important here so I

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want grants take on it and and the

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previous videos too as well we're gonna

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talk about that look at them all as a

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whole and what information he has got so

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we're gonna do that but I I well I

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mentioned this last night on the show

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but when I have a guest on it's about

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the guest

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it's about grant and grants information

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my take on it doesn't matter there's no

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reason for me to do that so I'm going to

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present that take now I kind of spoke

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about this last night but because Steve

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Marilla was on with us and and Steve and

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I are very open with each other but let

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me share you this I'll watch the video

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again today a bunch of times and I'm

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trying to with these huge monitors here

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and I'm able to to blow it up and and

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stop it and freeze it and take a look at

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it is this this is my take there's

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missing footage at the beginning and at

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the end that's the first thing there's

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missing footage and I doubt that this is

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all there is to the this clip or the

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other clips in general but let's focus

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on this go fast video so I want to know

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what was said and what what happened

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after this clip stops why did they stop

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it where they did at the most exciting

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part of this whoo we got it what is that

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boom the clip stops I'm not I'm not

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buying that

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okay here's shadows of your mind fade or

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not so what do you consider to be the

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greatest hoax is not conspiracies of the

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fringe community answer on a postcard

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interesting and if you haven't entered

527
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already you can still win a full weekend

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pass to contact in the desert oh that's

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cool that's cool

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00:26:14,460 --> 00:26:12,070
shadows of your mind

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magazine Nazi okay okay all right I'll

532
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retweet that that's a that's good

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see some things will just get a retweet

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00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:21,820
and that right there is one of them you

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want to know how I retweet something

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just make it good

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all right boom done and that just got a

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retweet

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00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:36,310
I even hashtag it how can I can I get a

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free pass for contact in the desert I'd

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like to go that would be cool the

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greatest hoaxes

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00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:49,240
you mean like Billy Mayer Oh hot in here

544
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:52,480
did I say that it's hot in here it's hot

545
00:26:59,730 --> 00:26:53,410
hot

546
00:27:01,380 --> 00:26:59,740
you mean a hoax like that like Billy

547
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:01,390
Mayer the Billy Mayer hoax

548
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:05,110
well I got all right I know there's some

549
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:06,490
people out there that still believe that

550
00:27:13,260 --> 00:27:10,240
Billy Mayer is real so I don't want to

551
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:13,270
offend anybody out there back to this

552
00:27:21,660 --> 00:27:18,880
video the the most exciting part is what

553
00:27:24,150 --> 00:27:21,670
we're seeing there where's the rest of

554
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:24,160
the video where's the second half of it

555
00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:28,390
what was said before this right where

556
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:30,550
did the object come from how long were

557
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:33,310
they tracking it who saw it first you

558
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:35,650
know no mention of speed on this air

559
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:41,970
speed we can go out with our radar and

560
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:44,910
telemetry with all these modern

561
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:48,850
electronics in an f-18 Hornet and we are

562
00:27:54,450 --> 00:27:51,760
able to track identify friend or foe

563
00:27:58,020 --> 00:27:54,460
everything is on the line we know with

564
00:27:59,580 --> 00:27:58,030
airspeed the altitude direction right

565
00:28:02,400 --> 00:27:59,590
well where's all of that information

566
00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:02,410
here all right size of the plane where

567
00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:04,830
is all of that distance you know now

568
00:28:14,330 --> 00:28:08,500
that that's all interesting to me I when

569
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:14,340
I see this video I have a big letdown

570
00:28:20,460 --> 00:28:18,310
there is nothing there I really want

571
00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:20,470
something to be there I want I don't

572
00:28:25,529 --> 00:28:23,860
have anything you as my audience I don't

573
00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:25,539
have a reason for you

574
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:27,549
to go and look at this video man you got

575
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:28,840
to see this man as an object it's

576
00:28:33,330 --> 00:28:30,850
amazing you can see this and and and

577
00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:33,340
they there's nothing there for this

578
00:28:41,879 --> 00:28:37,059
video alright that video that object

579
00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:41,889
could be anything could be anything you

580
00:28:48,570 --> 00:28:45,220
know what it really could be it could be

581
00:28:51,629 --> 00:28:48,580
Tiger Woods on a driving range hitting

582
00:28:52,769 --> 00:28:51,639
balls out into the ocean that's what you

583
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:52,779
know that's what it looks like little

584
00:28:59,070 --> 00:28:55,330
golf ball you know and it's just a low

585
00:29:00,960 --> 00:28:59,080
drive just straight out right a little

586
00:29:04,349 --> 00:29:00,970
bit of backspin kind of hanging in the

587
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:04,359
air it could be anything you know and

588
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:06,970
that's that's I don't know I don't know

589
00:29:14,849 --> 00:29:11,049
I don't know it looks so small and if I

590
00:29:17,009 --> 00:29:14,859
was to judge where it's at above the

591
00:29:18,899 --> 00:29:17,019
waves what it looks like to me there and

592
00:29:21,779 --> 00:29:18,909
the water in the background if I'm just

593
00:29:24,570 --> 00:29:21,789
gonna be somebody that's guessing I'm

594
00:29:27,749 --> 00:29:24,580
gonna say this thing is six inches it's

595
00:29:29,999 --> 00:29:27,759
a softball that's that's you know it

596
00:29:32,609 --> 00:29:30,009
could be anything I don't know so if

597
00:29:34,409 --> 00:29:32,619
it's that small and it's white man maybe

598
00:29:37,219 --> 00:29:34,419
it's a friggin seagull in a glide

599
00:29:40,529 --> 00:29:37,229
pattern I don't know but we don't know

600
00:29:42,210 --> 00:29:40,539
what it is before and what it is after

601
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:42,220
in this video that they're talking about

602
00:29:48,029 --> 00:29:45,279
that they've seen and and and so forth

603
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:48,039
how long was this thing out there you

604
00:29:51,629 --> 00:29:50,049
know and that's that's the problem that

605
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:51,639
I have with this you can't show a video

606
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:57,090
and I believe what is it 15 seconds long

607
00:30:02,849 --> 00:30:00,399
you know what is it 15 30 seconds it's

608
00:30:04,919 --> 00:30:02,859
short there's not enough there there

609
00:30:07,710 --> 00:30:04,929
needed to be more meat on that bone for

610
00:30:09,629 --> 00:30:07,720
me there's not enough there and so I

611
00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:09,639
can't wait maybe I'm missing something

612
00:30:14,009 --> 00:30:11,590
grant is gonna be on the show tonight

613
00:30:16,859 --> 00:30:14,019
he's always here to set me straight so

614
00:30:18,060 --> 00:30:16,869
let's see what he's got to say I don't

615
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,070
want to take the wind out of the sails

616
00:30:25,529 --> 00:30:21,279
for anybody here with this video I would

617
00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:25,539
love all of your opinions I see what you

618
00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:27,009
guys are saying here and that's great

619
00:30:31,619 --> 00:30:29,320
I'm skeptical stay that watched it

620
00:30:33,779 --> 00:30:31,629
before the show total busted had about

621
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:33,789
as much substance as Rosie O'Donnell

622
00:30:37,979 --> 00:30:35,679
social intelligence well you don't got

623
00:30:39,370 --> 00:30:37,989
to take a poke at Rosie come on keep it

624
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:39,380
keep their personal stuff

625
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:41,930
but yeah you're probably right I think

626
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:43,730
that the pilots were very excited to

627
00:30:48,010 --> 00:30:46,730
have locked on the target yeah you're

628
00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:48,020
right about that that was pretty

629
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:50,150
interesting probably hard to lock on a

630
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:52,010
target that's so small you know golf

631
00:30:56,410 --> 00:30:54,110
ball or whatever it is it's probably

632
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:56,420
hard to lock on to a seagull or a bird

633
00:31:01,920 --> 00:30:59,360
it's probably not that easy

634
00:31:09,970 --> 00:31:01,930
which is probably what's going on here

635
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:09,980
that SRV guitar hanging in the back you

636
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:13,130
pick alright alright gonza metal right

637
00:31:15,550 --> 00:31:13,760
on

638
00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:15,560
you know it'll get a retweet I got to

639
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:16,940
get out of here I'm gonna get grant

640
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:20,330
Cameron in here and I'm gonna kick this

641
00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:22,880
show off we've got 90 minutes to on

642
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:26,150
stellar people get ready 90 minutes when

643
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:28,310
I come back we'll be joined from

644
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:31,850
Winnipeg grant Cameron talking about

645
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:34,310
that go fast videos could it be a great

646
00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:36,350
night on the show hello to everybody out

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there on YouTube on the bunker cam

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all right welcome back fade the block

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I'm gonna church how you doing good

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evening

724
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big night tonight on the show of course

725
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grant Cameron is here from the Snowy

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calm use the promo code fader fa de are

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741
00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:00,830
been a UFO researcher since 1975 he was

742
00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:03,320
recognized as both the leads conference

743
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:05,150
international researcher of the year and

744
00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:07,730
the UFO congress researcher of the year

745
00:37:12,130 --> 00:37:10,100
he's a world renowned expert on ufos

746
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:12,140
conspiracies government cover-ups and

747
00:37:15,780 --> 00:37:13,610
has spent decades watching and

748
00:37:18,730 --> 00:37:15,790
chronicling developments around

749
00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:18,740
extraterrestrial contact of course he is

750
00:37:24,570 --> 00:37:21,950
the author of Charlie Red Star one of

751
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:24,580
the great contact UFO sightings and

752
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:27,110
experiences in history happened up there

753
00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:29,090
in Canada when he was a kid that's

754
00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:31,430
amazing the Charlie red stars story when

755
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:33,670
it comes to grant I cannot hear that

756
00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:35,930
experience enough it is absolutely

757
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:36,590
incredible

758
00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:38,810
everybody parked their cars they were

759
00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:41,510
listening to this was hey hey hey grant

760
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:42,980
I'm gonna pull you in early before I

761
00:37:47,890 --> 00:37:45,650
finish your introduction that that

762
00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:47,900
sighting that was back in the 70s right

763
00:37:55,330 --> 00:37:53,180
so I'm 75 so all the hits back then like

764
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:55,340
people that have their cars pulled over

765
00:37:59,070 --> 00:37:57,290
you would put your speakers on top of

766
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:59,080
the cars remember those days so

767
00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:01,280
everybody was up there listening to like

768
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:02,470
Foghat and

769
00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:07,330
heart right watching Charlie red star

770
00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:09,340
right that's that's essentially what was

771
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:12,760
going on I had to I had to just throw

772
00:38:15,930 --> 00:38:14,530
you under the bus because look he got

773
00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:15,940
understand grant you and I are the same

774
00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:19,000
age you know who Foghat is the rest of

775
00:38:21,930 --> 00:38:21,070
our audience doesn't okay so we got that

776
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:21,940
going for us

777
00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:23,710
tonight we're going to discuss the new

778
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:26,470
go-fast video that was just released by

779
00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:29,410
the to the stars Academy and Tom DeLonge

780
00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:31,420
it is the third video that they have

781
00:38:35,550 --> 00:38:33,070
released of course we'll talk about all

782
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:35,560
three in their entirety and and maybe

783
00:38:40,290 --> 00:38:38,170
even throw in a number one mylar balloon

784
00:38:41,550 --> 00:38:40,300
uh for good measure and we'll talk about

785
00:38:43,650 --> 00:38:41,560
all of this tonight and the other

786
00:38:46,349 --> 00:38:43,660
goings-on around the UFO community

787
00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:46,359
please welcome back our good friend from

788
00:38:50,430 --> 00:38:48,609
the great white north the best grant

789
00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:50,440
Cameron grant welcome how are you

790
00:38:54,930 --> 00:38:53,740
tonight that's doing just great Jimmy

791
00:38:56,730 --> 00:38:54,940
Church thanks for having me on I

792
00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:56,740
appreciate it well you know you've been

793
00:39:02,880 --> 00:38:59,170
doing this for a very very long time

794
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:02,890
grant and 1975 to me seems like

795
00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:05,200
yesterday but we need to be serious here

796
00:39:14,670 --> 00:39:09,240
that's a long time and to have this

797
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:14,680
explosive UFO subject out there for the

798
00:39:20,690 --> 00:39:18,609
first time for you for all of us like

799
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:20,700
this in the mass media since December of

800
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,910
2017 that these are exciting times at

801
00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:26,560
least the subject is out there and it's

802
00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:30,460
being discussed how are you right now do

803
00:39:34,109 --> 00:39:32,380
you have the same enthusiasm that you

804
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:34,119
had back in December you were on the

805
00:39:41,130 --> 00:39:37,810
show with me then we had that important

806
00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:41,140
night where we brought you on how are

807
00:39:50,010 --> 00:39:45,430
you today actually I hate the story I

808
00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:50,020
just I'm not much I'm into it down there

809
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:51,790
I call it the rat hole I'm so far down

810
00:39:58,109 --> 00:39:54,640
that I can't even see the surface mm-hmm

811
00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:58,119
but it's a story that I've followed and

812
00:40:02,190 --> 00:40:00,640
I always point out to people because

813
00:40:04,589 --> 00:40:02,200
people think that what happened today

814
00:40:08,220 --> 00:40:04,599
happened in 1975 and you're very true

815
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:08,230
that in 1975 we had no idea about

816
00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:09,760
anything we had Travis Walton was

817
00:40:13,650 --> 00:40:11,500
abducted the same year where I had my

818
00:40:15,210 --> 00:40:13,660
experience but other than that there was

819
00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:15,220
like no abductions there was no crash

820
00:40:18,570 --> 00:40:16,270
daily ins

821
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:18,580
was no Roswell there was there was

822
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:20,980
basically nothing and now we have this

823
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:23,200
sort of world that we've sort of waited

824
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:27,910
for for sort of the justification that

825
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:29,530
we were right all along that I wasn't

826
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:31,930
crazy in 1975 when I saw this object and

827
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:34,720
yet when it came I mean I was pretty

828
00:40:38,070 --> 00:40:36,310
much into it I was into it long before

829
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:38,080
Tom DeLonge started like most of the

830
00:40:43,590 --> 00:40:40,690
characters in the play I've known about

831
00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:43,600
for quite a while right and and yet when

832
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:48,070
it happened it's the the idea of being

833
00:40:52,410 --> 00:40:49,570
inside the UFO community because it can

834
00:40:54,030 --> 00:40:52,420
be very very cruel very sort of you know

835
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:54,040
you're always fighting with people and

836
00:40:58,170 --> 00:40:56,290
that's just not me I really don't like

837
00:41:00,090 --> 00:40:58,180
that part of the the story but in terms

838
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:00,100
of what you're pointing out the idea

839
00:41:07,770 --> 00:41:06,000
that I I called it disclosure in

840
00:41:09,090 --> 00:41:07,780
December now would change it to

841
00:41:10,110 --> 00:41:09,100
confirmation because that's what they're

842
00:41:11,850 --> 00:41:10,120
doing they're not doing disclosure

843
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:11,860
they're doing confirmation they're doing

844
00:41:18,330 --> 00:41:14,830
what Bob Bigelow talked about in a 2013

845
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:18,340
interview with George Knapp on coast to

846
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:19,930
coast and that's what I sort of

847
00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:21,990
encouraged people that people think that

848
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:24,070
you know everything's always been the

849
00:41:28,890 --> 00:41:25,570
same but what happens with the Tom

850
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:28,900
DeLonge story or all this kind of stuff

851
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:30,400
is you got to go back and you got to

852
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,310
listen to the interviews from five years

853
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:35,680
ago or ten years ago and suddenly you

854
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:37,150
hear them completely differently and so

855
00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:40,480
at Bob Bigelow said in 2013 George asked

856
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:42,460
me said are you in favor of disclosure

857
00:41:49,170 --> 00:41:47,200
and he said no I'm not he said I need

858
00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:49,180
confirmation we don't need disclosure we

859
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:50,320
need confirmation

860
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:53,200
we need this story to be put out there

861
00:42:00,030 --> 00:41:56,530
to the American people just the fact the

862
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:00,040
phenomenas here it's real and that's it

863
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,010
stop right there and a couple years down

864
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:05,200
the road then you can do disclosure and

865
00:42:11,940 --> 00:42:09,310
what I've realized in this story since

866
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:11,950
December this is exactly what they did

867
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:13,930
they did confirmation it's not

868
00:42:17,850 --> 00:42:15,730
disclosure because disclosure means you

869
00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:17,860
stand the president up and you say et's

870
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:19,870
are here it's real all this kind of

871
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:23,770
stuff there there is no there's no

872
00:42:27,930 --> 00:42:25,960
discussion of aliens and that's what if

873
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:27,940
you listen to the interview that Bigelow

874
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,130
said in 2013 you

875
00:42:33,450 --> 00:42:32,079
need to talk about aliens you don't need

876
00:42:35,609 --> 00:42:33,460
to talk about they're here

877
00:42:38,490 --> 00:42:35,619
ETS all this kind of stuff you just need

878
00:42:40,859 --> 00:42:38,500
to say the UFOs exist and that's it and

879
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:40,869
and so will you see the the operation

880
00:42:44,789 --> 00:42:43,089
the to the Stars operation that's

881
00:42:46,829 --> 00:42:44,799
exactly what they're doing there's no

882
00:42:48,990 --> 00:42:46,839
discussion to bt it's what they should

883
00:42:51,630 --> 00:42:49,000
have done in 1947 you should have said

884
00:42:54,359 --> 00:42:51,640
in 1947 they're here

885
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:54,369
we don't know what it is and you you go

886
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:55,839
from there so there's almost like trying

887
00:43:01,380 --> 00:42:59,200
to redo the the the playbook but I

888
00:43:03,299 --> 00:43:01,390
encourage people like in fact what I

889
00:43:05,940 --> 00:43:03,309
tell people with the Tom DeLonge thing

890
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:05,950
because people always get sort of it's a

891
00:43:10,349 --> 00:43:08,410
all mover likes 24/7 news that we watch

892
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:10,359
the story and then we forget about it we

893
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:11,410
go on to the next story I'm going in

894
00:43:14,759 --> 00:43:13,089
next story and one of the interviews you

895
00:43:17,549 --> 00:43:14,769
did I say is one of the most important

896
00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:17,559
one of this entire story and that is the

897
00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:19,240
interview you did with with Tom DeLonge

898
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:20,980
and I tell people all the time I said if

899
00:43:23,849 --> 00:43:22,450
you want to know what's going on you got

900
00:43:26,819 --> 00:43:23,859
to listen to the Jimmy Church interview

901
00:43:29,819 --> 00:43:26,829
with on with with Tom DeLonge that tells

902
00:43:32,999 --> 00:43:29,829
you exactly you know how he started how

903
00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:33,009
he was he was set up how he they brought

904
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:34,630
him into this operation they moved him

905
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:36,250
around from place to place and so stuff

906
00:43:42,299 --> 00:43:39,460
it was very open but people sort of get

907
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:42,309
into the position where they they're

908
00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:44,049
waiting for the next story they're

909
00:43:47,069 --> 00:43:45,160
waiting for the next video and that's

910
00:43:49,289 --> 00:43:47,079
why we get set up so easy is because

911
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:49,299
everybody thinks disclosure is the next

912
00:43:54,299 --> 00:43:51,730
story when it you know and I tell people

913
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,309
I say there's only there's three options

914
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:56,079
you you either are disclosing which

915
00:44:01,170 --> 00:43:58,650
means you stand up somebody and you say

916
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:01,180
you know the president somebody of

917
00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:03,490
authority or the CIA director and say

918
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:05,140
this is for real you show the bodies the

919
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:07,119
crafts you have the you know all the big

920
00:44:13,170 --> 00:44:09,190
networks in there and you sort of out

921
00:44:14,279 --> 00:44:13,180
everything or you cover-up and that

922
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:14,289
means you just shut up and we'll talk

923
00:44:18,329 --> 00:44:16,450
about it like Canada or Australia or

924
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:18,339
Germany or whatever where nobody knows

925
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:19,690
anything about what's going on about

926
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:21,250
UFOs you just shut up and they'll talk

927
00:44:25,019 --> 00:44:22,930
about it right they're doing something

928
00:44:27,029 --> 00:44:25,029
in between they're doing this and that's

929
00:44:30,059 --> 00:44:27,039
what Bigelow called it confirmation

930
00:44:32,579 --> 00:44:30,069
they're confirming the story and and so

931
00:44:34,349 --> 00:44:32,589
I've watched it very very closely I mean

932
00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:34,359
I wrote the book managing magic before

933
00:44:39,509 --> 00:44:37,150
this thing whole started and what I was

934
00:44:41,999 --> 00:44:39,519
told a year ago is exactly what happened

935
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:42,009
and I and even a year ago I never would

936
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:43,990
have believed it what I was told is

937
00:44:48,180 --> 00:44:45,850
high-level government officials will

938
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:48,190
come forward they will out themselves

939
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:50,530
and they will say this thing's for real

940
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:54,010
and I went yeah right come on the

941
00:44:56,490 --> 00:44:55,210
high-level government officials are

942
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:56,500
going to actually come out that's exact

943
00:45:00,000 --> 00:44:58,090
what happened you had new Alessandro

944
00:45:02,430 --> 00:45:00,010
come out you had Steve Justice come out

945
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:02,440
you had Jim semi van came out and they

946
00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:03,910
they identified who they were where

947
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:05,830
high-level government officials retired

948
00:45:13,290 --> 00:45:10,150
and the stories for real and so I I've

949
00:45:18,450 --> 00:45:13,300
watched it very carefully but I just

950
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:18,460
it's it's so so much material it's such

951
00:45:23,730 --> 00:45:21,010
a driven story that as I tell people now

952
00:45:25,290 --> 00:45:23,740
I really I really don't even have time

953
00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:25,300
to do emails I don't have time to do

954
00:45:29,130 --> 00:45:26,830
anything there's just so much material

955
00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:29,140
happening so many people talking it's

956
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:31,630
such an intense story and yet it's this

957
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:34,030
thing where when you put it out there's

958
00:45:38,580 --> 00:45:35,680
all this fighting and stuff like that

959
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:38,590
and this is the sort of disclosure that

960
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:41,110
I'm sort of telling people now is that

961
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:42,160
what is happening is this is

962
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:44,710
confirmation and what is happening and

963
00:45:51,390 --> 00:45:47,410
I'm pretty sure this we've been

964
00:45:53,310 --> 00:45:51,400
Tillerson we've been fired the UFO

965
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,320
community has been bypassed if you take

966
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:55,119
a look at what they're doing right

967
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:57,130
they are totally ignoring the UFO

968
00:45:59,849 --> 00:45:58,690
community because the UFO community is

969
00:46:01,830 --> 00:45:59,859
sort of there like a like a

970
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:01,840
three-year-old kid you know we want you

971
00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:04,000
know prove this to us and you see with

972
00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:07,180
the the to the stars story people are

973
00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:09,190
saying why didn't they do this why

974
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:10,750
didn't he do that it's like why didn't

975
00:46:14,070 --> 00:46:11,770
he prove it to me why didn't they

976
00:46:15,450 --> 00:46:14,080
produce this evidence that evidence it's

977
00:46:19,859 --> 00:46:15,460
because it's not about the UFO community

978
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:19,869
they basically went to the news media

979
00:46:23,609 --> 00:46:21,430
they said we're gonna bypass the UFO

980
00:46:25,530 --> 00:46:23,619
community because all it is is fighting

981
00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:25,540
infighting you're never gonna convince

982
00:46:31,380 --> 00:46:28,420
them they went to the three major news

983
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:31,390
networks and they coordinated this thing

984
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:34,210
there's no way that's three major news

985
00:46:41,370 --> 00:46:39,670
networks outlets went the same day with

986
00:46:44,490 --> 00:46:41,380
a major story that took them months to

987
00:46:47,490 --> 00:46:44,500
do and all went on the same morning with

988
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:47,500
that story that shows high coordination

989
00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:51,670
and so what they have done is that they

990
00:46:57,010 --> 00:46:54,780
have produced to these high-level

991
00:46:58,540 --> 00:46:57,020
reporters

992
00:47:00,640 --> 00:46:58,550
Blumenthal is the one at the New York

993
00:47:02,890 --> 00:47:00,650
Times and everybody ignores the other

994
00:47:05,230 --> 00:47:02,900
ones there's work is the actually the

995
00:47:07,450 --> 00:47:05,240
big guy he's the Washington Post guy he

996
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:07,460
won two Pulitzer Prizes and then you

997
00:47:11,590 --> 00:47:10,010
have the political reporter and what you

998
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:11,600
have is these are national security

999
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:13,490
reporters who are used to working in the

1000
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,130
Pentagon so what they do is they go in

1001
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:18,560
and they they they hear the story and

1002
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:20,450
they go to their Pentagon sources we're

1003
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:22,130
off the record and they say is this for

1004
00:47:26,410 --> 00:47:24,410
real and they get told yes this thing's

1005
00:47:29,380 --> 00:47:26,420
for real and they run with the story all

1006
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:29,390
three net well three newspapers run with

1007
00:47:33,940 --> 00:47:31,850
the story then when the UFO community

1008
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:33,950
tries to confirm it what we're getting

1009
00:47:37,570 --> 00:47:35,510
now and this is a discussion that's been

1010
00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:37,580
going on today and yesterday and stuff

1011
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:40,070
like this is this whole idea that when

1012
00:47:45,220 --> 00:47:41,690
you file an fo a and apparently there's

1013
00:47:50,140 --> 00:47:45,230
been 1,500 to 2,000 foi ace piled on on

1014
00:47:53,170 --> 00:47:50,150
this the a tip program then you get this

1015
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:53,180
John Greenwald was bringing up yet today

1016
00:47:57,940 --> 00:47:55,670
yesterday I guess it was no no worse no

1017
00:48:00,250 --> 00:47:57,950
records no nothing responsive there's

1018
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:00,260
nothing here and and I know because I

1019
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:02,480
was dealing with a reporter who asked

1020
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:03,920
Hillier cutting the first question he

1021
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:05,930
did me a favor when this thing first

1022
00:48:11,830 --> 00:48:08,570
broke in December he filed on foi a and

1023
00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:11,840
he was told right up front no we did not

1024
00:48:15,250 --> 00:48:13,190
release these videos so you have this

1025
00:48:17,470 --> 00:48:15,260
big controversy going on the UFO

1026
00:48:20,980 --> 00:48:17,480
community cannot confirm these videos

1027
00:48:23,140 --> 00:48:20,990
are confirmed by the Defense Department

1028
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:23,150
they say there's no records we have no

1029
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:25,970
record of the 8a program we don't have

1030
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:27,770
anything and they're playing the same

1031
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:30,410
old game and yet when you take a look

1032
00:48:35,260 --> 00:48:32,960
you say well how did the New York Times

1033
00:48:36,609 --> 00:48:35,270
fall for this story and I know that when

1034
00:48:39,370 --> 00:48:36,619
the story broke there was already

1035
00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:39,380
trouble with the videos and a friend of

1036
00:48:43,450 --> 00:48:41,150
mine contacted Blumenthal he was friends

1037
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:43,460
with Blumenthal and I'll tell you if

1038
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:45,710
this had been happening in public he

1039
00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:47,510
probably had killed my friend he was so

1040
00:48:51,550 --> 00:48:49,790
angry he said do you think I'm stupid

1041
00:48:53,890 --> 00:48:51,560
and then and that may brought up an

1042
00:48:55,359 --> 00:48:53,900
important point you have the Washington

1043
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:55,369
Post guy he's got two Pulitzer Prize

1044
00:49:00,370 --> 00:48:58,010
national security guy

1045
00:49:03,010 --> 00:49:00,380
lots of Pentagon sources and you have

1046
00:49:04,930 --> 00:49:03,020
Blumenthal 42 years at the New York

1047
00:49:07,390 --> 00:49:04,940
Times or whatever and these guys have

1048
00:49:08,890 --> 00:49:07,400
all these these sources so they must

1049
00:49:10,540 --> 00:49:08,900
have been told something otherwise they

1050
00:49:12,610 --> 00:49:10,550
wouldn't remember the story they had

1051
00:49:14,590 --> 00:49:12,620
thority of sources that said yes this

1052
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:14,600
thing's for real and that's all they're

1053
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:15,730
doing is they're convincing these guys

1054
00:49:19,870 --> 00:49:18,530
so you get all these videos and the UFO

1055
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,880
community is fighting about it oh it's

1056
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:21,920
Tom DeLonge is gathering money they put

1057
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:23,930
up the balloon photo it's all a big mess

1058
00:49:30,460 --> 00:49:27,370
it's just a big mess and and yet you see

1059
00:49:32,830 --> 00:49:30,470
Fox picked it up today CNN picked it up

1060
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:32,840
yesterday and they've got all the major

1061
00:49:36,730 --> 00:49:34,490
news media so they're not interested in

1062
00:49:38,770 --> 00:49:36,740
you and I they could care less whether

1063
00:49:40,660 --> 00:49:38,780
you and I believe this story that all

1064
00:49:44,350 --> 00:49:40,670
they're interested in is putting it to

1065
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,360
CNN big news media outlets and and do

1066
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,640
the confirmation thing and if you take a

1067
00:49:50,770 --> 00:49:49,040
look at the CNN story or the the the

1068
00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:50,780
it's all goes the same way it's like oh

1069
00:49:56,770 --> 00:49:53,270
the Pentagon has just released another

1070
00:49:58,660 --> 00:49:56,780
UFO video no not not questioning

1071
00:49:59,860 --> 00:49:58,670
anything not a note up none of the

1072
00:50:01,660 --> 00:49:59,870
problems that are brought up in UFO

1073
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:01,670
community about Tom DeLonge gathering

1074
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:02,960
money or all this kind of stuff they've

1075
00:50:06,070 --> 00:50:04,250
totally ignored that because they're

1076
00:50:07,690 --> 00:50:06,080
doing custom cut and paste journalism

1077
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:07,700
they've given him the story and they're

1078
00:50:11,530 --> 00:50:09,110
running with the story no little green

1079
00:50:12,940 --> 00:50:11,540
man the media has completely been turned

1080
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:12,950
around and I would say what the

1081
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:15,650
objective was was to get the general

1082
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:18,290
public shifted over and I would I'd be

1083
00:50:22,330 --> 00:50:20,210
interesting to see a poll of how much is

1084
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:22,340
shifted I would not be surprised if the

1085
00:50:27,940 --> 00:50:25,730
poll in the public has shifted five or

1086
00:50:29,530 --> 00:50:27,950
ten percent more people say yeah this

1087
00:50:30,970 --> 00:50:29,540
thing's for real because that's the way

1088
00:50:33,220 --> 00:50:30,980
it's been presented it's like the major

1089
00:50:34,930 --> 00:50:33,230
news media are talking about it like it

1090
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:34,940
had like it happened and and there was

1091
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:36,800
no riots nobody burned down Washington

1092
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:40,130
DC it they basically came out and said

1093
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:42,110
yeah we have a government program we're

1094
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:44,960
working on UFOs and they got away with

1095
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:47,210
it and it's it's out there and now

1096
00:50:50,050 --> 00:50:49,280
they're gonna play this thing for a

1097
00:50:51,460 --> 00:50:50,060
while longer

1098
00:50:53,110 --> 00:50:51,470
with the videos and all those kind of

1099
00:50:55,330 --> 00:50:53,120
stuff and then they'll move on to the

1100
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:55,340
next state where are they but right now

1101
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:57,170
don't talk about aliens don't talk about

1102
00:51:01,300 --> 00:50:59,210
this kind of stuff and the story that

1103
00:51:05,170 --> 00:51:01,310
sort of confirms that the UFO community

1104
00:51:07,210 --> 00:51:05,180
has been fired is you know that my

1105
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:07,220
friend Melinda Leslie we we had an

1106
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:10,010
arrangement we got an interview with Jim

1107
00:51:14,770 --> 00:51:13,130
semi man who was the they had the sort

1108
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:14,780
of the director of to the stars

1109
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,570
and I didn't realize she's going to talk

1110
00:51:22,450 --> 00:51:19,520
about this next week we're in San

1111
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:22,460
Francisco doing this big disclosure deal

1112
00:51:27,059 --> 00:51:23,890
all these lectures

1113
00:51:29,549 --> 00:51:27,069
with Danny Sheehan and her and I and she

1114
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:29,559
was told by Jim semi van you know the

1115
00:51:35,279 --> 00:51:32,650
story that Louie Elizondo didn't go to

1116
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:35,289
UFO Congress and the story was that he

1117
00:51:40,049 --> 00:51:37,569
had this medical procedure that had to

1118
00:51:43,259 --> 00:51:40,059
be done and that's probably true that he

1119
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:43,269
had a medical procedure but open minds

1120
00:51:49,890 --> 00:51:46,450
offered to go and interview him and then

1121
00:51:51,779 --> 00:51:49,900
to the stars came back and said I just

1122
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:51,789
sent us the questions we'll interview

1123
00:51:56,130 --> 00:51:53,890
him and that's what's called controlling

1124
00:51:57,870 --> 00:51:56,140
the narrative right where they they they

1125
00:52:00,329 --> 00:51:57,880
do the interviews they ask the questions

1126
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:00,339
they want and what Jim semi vans said to

1127
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:02,170
Melinda is that not somebody into the

1128
00:52:06,089 --> 00:52:03,910
stars but somebody connected to the

1129
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:06,099
stars told him not to go to stay away

1130
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:08,529
from UFO conferences and I know this is

1131
00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:09,670
true because I know one of the people

1132
00:52:13,259 --> 00:52:11,230
associated with to the stars I remember

1133
00:52:16,349 --> 00:52:13,269
many years ago I was at a conference and

1134
00:52:18,269 --> 00:52:16,359
this person I wanted him to go into an

1135
00:52:19,859 --> 00:52:18,279
into a lecture and they would not go in

1136
00:52:21,450 --> 00:52:19,869
the room people were talking don't go in

1137
00:52:22,650 --> 00:52:21,460
the room don't go in the room and it was

1138
00:52:23,819 --> 00:52:22,660
like they don't want to be seen with us

1139
00:52:25,019 --> 00:52:23,829
like they'll go there and give their

1140
00:52:26,670 --> 00:52:25,029
lecture they'll stand on the hall

1141
00:52:28,859 --> 00:52:26,680
interview people or they'll do

1142
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:28,869
interviews and stuff like that but what

1143
00:52:34,099 --> 00:52:31,089
Lu Elizondo was told was you don't go to

1144
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:34,109
these conferences because number one

1145
00:52:38,190 --> 00:52:36,609
you're going to be asked all bunch of

1146
00:52:39,989 --> 00:52:38,200
hardball questions they're just gonna

1147
00:52:42,180 --> 00:52:39,999
ask you like real tough questions then I

1148
00:52:43,529 --> 00:52:42,190
can ask you anything easy and it's gonna

1149
00:52:46,019 --> 00:52:43,539
be hard to control a narrative and

1150
00:52:48,450 --> 00:52:46,029
secondly because he's got the same job

1151
00:52:50,279 --> 00:52:48,460
as Richard Doty Lou Elizondo is a

1152
00:52:52,109 --> 00:52:50,289
counterintelligence officer working for

1153
00:52:53,999 --> 00:52:52,119
the Department of Defense the same as is

1154
00:52:56,130 --> 00:52:54,009
Richard Doty and because you're in a

1155
00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:56,140
counterintelligence officer it doesn't

1156
00:53:01,019 --> 00:52:58,690
matter how you answer the questions if

1157
00:53:02,729 --> 00:53:01,029
you go to UFO Congress or go on the

1158
00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:02,739
Jimmy Church show nobody's gonna believe

1159
00:53:06,059 --> 00:53:04,900
you anyway so there's no point in you

1160
00:53:07,410 --> 00:53:06,069
doing this and that's where they're

1161
00:53:08,999 --> 00:53:07,420
doing this thing to controlling the

1162
00:53:12,059 --> 00:53:09,009
narrative but I think it has worked

1163
00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:12,069
extremely well in in terms of them

1164
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:14,230
getting this message out that you now

1165
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:16,930
have major media all the major media are

1166
00:53:20,609 --> 00:53:19,450
just playing the story that we've got

1167
00:53:22,650 --> 00:53:20,619
another release we've got another video

1168
00:53:24,299 --> 00:53:22,660
the Pentagon is going along with this

1169
00:53:26,609 --> 00:53:24,309
thing there's no more jokes there's no

1170
00:53:27,870 --> 00:53:26,619
more little green men's and I think it's

1171
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:27,880
brilliant what they've done I mean it's

1172
00:53:31,499 --> 00:53:29,680
really really I think they've done a

1173
00:53:33,150 --> 00:53:31,509
good job and yet in the UFO community

1174
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:33,160
it's basically odd they've messed this

1175
00:53:36,660 --> 00:53:34,690
thing up Tom DeLonge has been can

1176
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:36,670
because he you know he messed up a bunch

1177
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:37,490
of interviews

1178
00:53:41,830 --> 00:53:39,890
like that and to me it's it's

1179
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:41,840
controlling the narrative that they they

1180
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:43,520
wanted this confirmation thing to take

1181
00:53:48,310 --> 00:53:45,890
place to move the American people to the

1182
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:48,320
to the point where they all believe yes

1183
00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:49,520
it's for real the government's in

1184
00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:51,830
investigating UFOs UFOs are real and

1185
00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:53,990
once they get to that point they'll move

1186
00:53:58,720 --> 00:53:55,910
to the next step which is where are they

1187
00:54:01,450 --> 00:53:58,730
from all this kind of stuff what did you

1188
00:54:03,820 --> 00:54:01,460
think about we're gonna hit a commercial

1189
00:54:06,430 --> 00:54:03,830
here at the top of the hour so let's

1190
00:54:07,930 --> 00:54:06,440
watch the clock but yeah in this new

1191
00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:07,940
video we'll talk about the other two

1192
00:54:12,250 --> 00:54:09,680
we've got a long show in front of us we

1193
00:54:17,859 --> 00:54:12,260
can do that too as well but with this

1194
00:54:19,660 --> 00:54:17,869
new video what did you think when when

1195
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:19,670
he first saw it would it would what do

1196
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:22,130
you think you're even looking at well I

1197
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:25,130
mean it's it's just another UFO video I

1198
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:26,960
mean it's it's not as good as the others

1199
00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:28,400
I mean it's just like a little orb

1200
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:31,190
zipping along the the ocean and my

1201
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:34,250
opinion of UFO videos is always the same

1202
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:35,930
thing it's a total waste of time

1203
00:54:40,690 --> 00:54:38,510
UFO photos and UFO videos are a total

1204
00:54:43,210 --> 00:54:40,700
waste of time they are there to live

1205
00:54:45,070 --> 00:54:43,220
they're like candy for the public people

1206
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:45,080
love looking at UFO videos they love

1207
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:47,450
hearing UFO stories they love looking at

1208
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:50,240
UFO photos but I know from 1975 that's

1209
00:54:54,940 --> 00:54:53,090
how I started I had my my sighting and I

1210
00:54:56,349 --> 00:54:54,950
thought oh my goodness people I got to

1211
00:55:00,160 --> 00:54:56,359
see this I dragged all my friends out

1212
00:55:03,540 --> 00:55:00,170
there and they basically you know go

1213
00:55:05,830 --> 00:55:03,550
home and I spend my whole time

1214
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:05,840
investigating going to this town

1215
00:55:09,730 --> 00:55:08,240
interviewing all these people putting

1216
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:09,740
this whole book out and then the

1217
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:11,210
publisher that should have published it

1218
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:12,890
said Mr Cameron you may believe in this

1219
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:14,090
kind of stuff count me among the

1220
00:55:18,430 --> 00:55:15,890
unbelievers and I suddenly realized that

1221
00:55:20,980 --> 00:55:18,440
UFO sightings watching lights in the sky

1222
00:55:23,770 --> 00:55:20,990
really doesn't prove anything to anybody

1223
00:55:25,150 --> 00:55:23,780
like you had a Durant exciting in at

1224
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:25,160
contact in the desert

1225
00:55:28,270 --> 00:55:26,930
I had a dramatic sighting you can tell

1226
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:28,280
your story and after five minutes of

1227
00:55:30,820 --> 00:55:29,450
telling the story you can watch people

1228
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:30,830
and you can see their eyes glazing over

1229
00:55:33,940 --> 00:55:32,930
did you interested for five minutes and

1230
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:33,950
after that you really don't care because

1231
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:36,050
it doesn't really prove anything it's

1232
00:55:43,180 --> 00:55:38,330
just another video but it does it's the

1233
00:55:45,070 --> 00:55:43,190
kind of stuff that that that Fox CNN all

1234
00:55:46,660 --> 00:55:45,080
these media outlets will take because

1235
00:55:49,150 --> 00:55:46,670
people watch that kind of stuff and it's

1236
00:55:50,620 --> 00:55:49,160
this it's almost like doing a Hollywood

1237
00:55:52,859 --> 00:55:50,630
movie it's like

1238
00:55:55,180 --> 00:55:52,869
sort of coming in the back door

1239
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:55,190
subliminal advertising type thing where

1240
00:55:58,420 --> 00:55:56,930
you're just getting across the idea

1241
00:56:00,519 --> 00:55:58,430
there's something there and that's what

1242
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:00,529
I say whether it's the reports or even

1243
00:56:05,140 --> 00:56:03,410
the medal the Canadian government had

1244
00:56:06,370 --> 00:56:05,150
lots of metal and and the Canadian

1245
00:56:08,170 --> 00:56:06,380
government said it might as well be in

1246
00:56:09,819 --> 00:56:08,180
the fourth dimension for what it's worth

1247
00:56:12,099 --> 00:56:09,829
when you try to figure out what's going

1248
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:12,109
on my main what I've maintained since

1249
00:56:16,509 --> 00:56:15,170
1975 the only thing that's important is

1250
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,519
the experiences the people who were

1251
00:56:20,529 --> 00:56:18,319
interacting with the phenomenon you

1252
00:56:23,740 --> 00:56:20,539
can't tell I'll guarantee you Jimmy

1253
00:56:26,349 --> 00:56:23,750
seventy years from now if I'm long dead

1254
00:56:27,460 --> 00:56:26,359
and gone they'll still be playing that

1255
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:27,470
video and everybody said what do you

1256
00:56:30,430 --> 00:56:28,880
think what do you think you take a look

1257
00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:30,440
at the best photographs we the best

1258
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:31,849
photograph we supposedly had was the

1259
00:56:36,009 --> 00:56:34,130
Trenton on Florida girl from 1952 we're

1260
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:36,019
still arguing about it will always be

1261
00:56:38,890 --> 00:56:37,609
arguing about we will never solve

1262
00:56:39,490 --> 00:56:38,900
anything with a video people said what

1263
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:39,500
do you think what do you think

1264
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:40,910
and people will argue about it and then

1265
00:56:44,499 --> 00:56:42,170
it's like when's the next video coming

1266
00:56:46,269 --> 00:56:44,509
out and it really doesn't solve anything

1267
00:56:47,890 --> 00:56:46,279
it just says something's going on yes

1268
00:56:50,019 --> 00:56:47,900
there's something dramatic going on

1269
00:56:52,299 --> 00:56:50,029
something is unusual but in terms of

1270
00:56:54,279 --> 00:56:52,309
figuring out what it is like you see

1271
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:54,289
that little orb zipping along the ocean

1272
00:56:57,460 --> 00:56:56,000
you say well what planet is it from and

1273
00:56:59,049 --> 00:56:57,470
it's like well how am I gonna know is

1274
00:57:01,269 --> 00:56:59,059
and that's what it comes down to it's

1275
00:57:03,279 --> 00:57:01,279
just a light it's just a like a light

1276
00:57:04,809 --> 00:57:03,289
the sky it's an interesting thing it

1277
00:57:05,259 --> 00:57:04,819
looks interesting but it doesn't prove

1278
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:05,269
anything

1279
00:57:09,700 --> 00:57:07,730
well why release the video then I here

1280
00:57:12,490 --> 00:57:09,710
you see this is the thing grant I'm

1281
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,500
listening to you and I agree with

1282
00:57:18,609 --> 00:57:14,720
everything that you just said but you're

1283
00:57:21,490 --> 00:57:18,619
also suggesting that they I'm talking

1284
00:57:23,620 --> 00:57:21,500
about to the stars and DeLonge and the

1285
00:57:25,779 --> 00:57:23,630
Pentagon are trying to have it both ways

1286
00:57:27,309 --> 00:57:25,789
so you're saying that the videos don't

1287
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:27,319
show anything why release it doesn't

1288
00:57:30,819 --> 00:57:28,250
matter we're gonna argue about it

1289
00:57:34,059 --> 00:57:30,829
forever but yet they're releasing it to

1290
00:57:35,230 --> 00:57:34,069
raise money and sell stocks so what well

1291
00:57:36,849 --> 00:57:35,240
no I don't believe I don't believe

1292
00:57:38,650 --> 00:57:36,859
that's going to do it what they're doing

1293
00:57:40,210 --> 00:57:38,660
they're not as I said they're not

1294
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:40,220
interesting UFO community then they're

1295
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:41,930
not there to prove to Jimmy Church or

1296
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:43,490
grant Cameron that this thing is for

1297
00:57:49,450 --> 00:57:45,529
real it approves anything they're doing

1298
00:57:50,980 --> 00:57:49,460
the confirmation thing they're going to

1299
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:50,990
the American people and they're saying

1300
00:57:54,700 --> 00:57:53,089
something's going on something look at

1301
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:54,710
this video something's going on that's

1302
00:57:58,990 --> 00:57:56,000
all it proves that's what they want

1303
00:58:01,359 --> 00:57:59,000
that's step number one to get 90% of the

1304
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:01,369
American public to say yes there are

1305
00:58:04,329 --> 00:58:03,440
video there are UFOs we don't know what

1306
00:58:05,890 --> 00:58:04,339
they are and the

1307
00:58:07,420 --> 00:58:05,900
it should be investigating and we should

1308
00:58:08,589 --> 00:58:07,430
get Congress to investigate that's all

1309
00:58:10,209 --> 00:58:08,599
they're doing is they're getting people

1310
00:58:12,130 --> 00:58:10,219
interested most people aren't tell

1311
00:58:14,140 --> 00:58:12,140
before you show them a video they'd say

1312
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:14,150
obvious hoax this garbage is like I

1313
00:58:16,839 --> 00:58:14,960
don't believe it

1314
00:58:19,690 --> 00:58:16,849
but now it's like oh no this no it's not

1315
00:58:21,459 --> 00:58:19,700
just a video now it's a video released

1316
00:58:23,380 --> 00:58:21,469
by the Department of Defense and the

1317
00:58:25,150 --> 00:58:23,390
average person on the street goes oh the

1318
00:58:27,370 --> 00:58:25,160
government is releasing stuff it might

1319
00:58:29,650 --> 00:58:27,380
be for real right right and see now

1320
00:58:33,130 --> 00:58:29,660
there's a there's two problems with this

1321
00:58:35,469 --> 00:58:33,140
video number one you don't have what is

1322
00:58:37,450 --> 00:58:35,479
before and after the video it's 15

1323
00:58:40,569 --> 00:58:37,460
seconds of footage the most important

1324
00:58:42,670 --> 00:58:40,579
stuff before and after this section is

1325
00:58:46,029 --> 00:58:42,680
not there that's the first thing the

1326
00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:46,039
second it's the power of suggestion you

1327
00:58:51,249 --> 00:58:49,249
suggest that this is a UFO video right

1328
00:58:55,109 --> 00:58:51,259
that's what the headlines are so that's

1329
00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:55,119
what you see if the headline said a

1330
00:59:00,609 --> 00:58:59,119
seagull looks like UFO in video right

1331
00:59:03,279 --> 00:59:00,619
people are gonna look at it and see a

1332
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:03,289
seagull you can say it's a golf ball you

1333
00:59:06,609 --> 00:59:05,089
could say whatever you want the power of

1334
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:06,619
suggestion that's what people are gonna

1335
00:59:11,499 --> 00:59:09,170
see and that's what's misleading and

1336
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:11,509
especially if you don't have what's in

1337
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:14,960
front and after this particular clip I

1338
00:59:19,390 --> 00:59:17,359
have issues with that but what's

1339
00:59:21,249 --> 00:59:19,400
before-and-after is only of interest to

1340
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:21,259
the UFO community the average guy

1341
00:59:26,349 --> 00:59:24,079
watches CNN could not care less about 15

1342
00:59:28,029 --> 00:59:26,359
seconds right you're not question it's

1343
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,039
not your community that's fighting all

1344
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:30,559
these issues they're not going after UFO

1345
00:59:36,279 --> 00:59:32,569
came-- they're just making people in the

1346
00:59:38,979 --> 00:59:36,289
public say oh the US the government has

1347
00:59:40,450 --> 00:59:38,989
released a Vinton other video on UFOs

1348
00:59:42,849 --> 00:59:40,460
they're suggesting they're saying yes

1349
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:42,859
this is a UFO released by the US

1350
00:59:45,249 --> 00:59:43,369
government

1351
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:45,259
that's all they want to do yeah but what

1352
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:47,450
I'm suggesting here not for the UFO

1353
00:59:52,930 --> 00:59:50,089
community I'm saying in general what

1354
00:59:55,479 --> 00:59:52,940
could be there before or after the video

1355
00:59:57,549 --> 00:59:55,489
could be something very telling like in

1356
01:00:00,640 --> 00:59:57,559
the beginning of the video check it out

1357
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:00,650
men were chasing these geese what if

1358
01:00:05,019 --> 01:00:02,930
that's you know what if that let's try

1359
01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:05,029
to lock on to these geese with our new

1360
01:00:10,059 --> 01:00:07,849
radar right what if that's what was said

1361
01:00:13,150 --> 01:00:10,069
at the beginning or how about at the end

1362
01:00:16,940 --> 01:00:13,160
you know and and when this thing crashes

1363
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:16,950
into the water and it sinks because it

1364
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:19,920
a softball that was shot from a water

1365
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:21,930
cannon off the deck of his ship you

1366
01:00:26,540 --> 01:00:24,810
don't know these things you know the

1367
01:00:28,579 --> 01:00:26,550
public doesn't care and all the public

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01:00:31,370 --> 01:00:28,589
is told this this is a UFO release by

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01:00:33,530 --> 01:00:31,380
the US right all right all right exactly

1370
01:00:35,150 --> 01:00:33,540
very interesting you know cut out the

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01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:35,160
stuff that actually you know and just

1372
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:40,050
show you know five seconds of a video at

1373
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:42,480
the height of this excitement Wow we

1374
01:00:46,970 --> 01:00:44,609
locked on to it locked on to what and

1375
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:46,980
they're selling story they're absolutely

1376
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,570
selling the UFO story that's what

1377
01:00:52,310 --> 01:00:50,400
they're doing whatever manipulation it

1378
01:00:54,530 --> 01:00:52,320
is why you're selling the story if

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01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:54,540
nobody is better than grant Cameron

1380
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:55,680
grant let's take a break right here

1381
01:00:59,960 --> 01:00:57,599
let's continue this discussion right

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01:01:01,280 --> 01:00:59,970
after this short break how much snow up

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01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:01,290
there are you guys in the middle of the

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01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:04,079
snowstorm it started to melt but no no

1385
01:01:07,550 --> 01:01:05,670
we don't get much snow it's very cold

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01:01:09,050 --> 01:01:07,560
but it's not no snow there you go well

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01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:09,060
why do we call it the great white north

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01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:11,520
but that's where he is right now it's

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01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:13,770
grant Cameron live from Winnipeg this is

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paid to black we'll be right back stay

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[Music]

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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[Applause]

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1456
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:12,509
welcome back fade to black tonight grant

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Cameron is here not once but twice

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researcher of the year not once but

1466
01:05:40,819 --> 01:05:38,579
twice grant and when I have somebody

1467
01:05:43,789 --> 01:05:40,829
like I respect you and I listen to you

1468
01:05:45,890 --> 01:05:43,799
and you settle me down and you get me

1469
01:05:49,130 --> 01:05:45,900
thinking clearly right and so

1470
01:05:50,479 --> 01:05:49,140
congratulations on that so let's let's

1471
01:05:53,769 --> 01:05:50,489
talk about some of the points that you

1472
01:05:57,739 --> 01:05:53,779
just brought up in this in this video

1473
01:06:00,289 --> 01:05:57,749
why in my opinion this is just my

1474
01:06:02,900 --> 01:06:00,299
opinion which matters very little but I

1475
01:06:07,309 --> 01:06:02,910
would have thought that the third shot

1476
01:06:09,769 --> 01:06:07,319
out of the cannon for to the stars would

1477
01:06:13,489 --> 01:06:09,779
have been something of significance and

1478
01:06:17,690 --> 01:06:13,499
when I saw this I just went well okay

1479
01:06:19,579 --> 01:06:17,700
that was my take and the forget about

1480
01:06:22,009 --> 01:06:19,589
the UFO community let's go back to your

1481
01:06:23,989 --> 01:06:22,019
point with everybody else out there

1482
01:06:26,779 --> 01:06:23,999
that's seeing this stuff including the

1483
01:06:28,849 --> 01:06:26,789
mass media at some point they're gonna

1484
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:28,859
do they're gonna have the same reaction

1485
01:06:33,620 --> 01:06:31,920
right and if you can tag you a follow on

1486
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:33,630
it but if there's nothing in the video

1487
01:06:39,469 --> 01:06:37,410
it's gonna matter not in T TSA in this

1488
01:06:43,069 --> 01:06:39,479
big grand effort with the Pentagon it's

1489
01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:43,079
gonna fizzle yeah that's that's that's

1490
01:06:47,299 --> 01:06:45,839
possible depending what they have I will

1491
01:06:50,029 --> 01:06:47,309
agree with you that the third one was

1492
01:06:51,950 --> 01:06:50,039
kind of sort of a letdown compared to

1493
01:06:54,109 --> 01:06:51,960
the first two but the question then

1494
01:06:56,479 --> 01:06:54,119
would be if we add the first 15 seconds

1495
01:06:58,700 --> 01:06:56,489
before and after the third video or is

1496
01:07:00,259 --> 01:06:58,710
there a video that they can release that

1497
01:07:01,509 --> 01:07:00,269
is going to satisfy the UFO community

1498
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:01,519
absolutely not

1499
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:07,039
there it's a what I was told today

1500
01:07:11,299 --> 01:07:09,839
because I was again questioning and I

1501
01:07:13,370 --> 01:07:11,309
don't want to come across to these guys

1502
01:07:15,410 --> 01:07:13,380
like you know other there you're

1503
01:07:16,759 --> 01:07:15,420
complaining again because then they

1504
01:07:17,989 --> 01:07:16,769
basically I don't want to get fired

1505
01:07:19,549 --> 01:07:17,999
either I mean they're at least they're

1506
01:07:22,050 --> 01:07:19,559
sort of talking to me I have people that

1507
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:22,060
I can sort of interact and say you know

1508
01:07:27,390 --> 01:07:25,510
ever but what I was told today is we've

1509
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:27,400
got bigger fish to fry hey I don't care

1510
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:30,310
we got bigger it's like I don't care if

1511
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:32,730
John Greenwald is having trouble getting

1512
01:07:36,780 --> 01:07:35,290
stuff you know it's a very long argument

1513
01:07:39,330 --> 01:07:36,790
give me a very specific question that

1514
01:07:40,380 --> 01:07:39,340
you want answered based on fYI ace it's

1515
01:07:43,250 --> 01:07:40,390
like they really don't care about

1516
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:43,260
questions anymore it's it's sort of like

1517
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:45,490
their they've got the thing like I've

1518
01:07:48,570 --> 01:07:47,170
heard the rumor about the 60 minute

1519
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:48,580
thing that's gonna happen they've got

1520
01:07:54,540 --> 01:07:51,250
you know some big official going on 60

1521
01:07:57,630 --> 01:07:54,550
minutes they I heard this and I put it

1522
01:07:59,760 --> 01:07:57,640
managing magic that this thing is is is

1523
01:08:01,620 --> 01:07:59,770
planned with dates and stuff like that

1524
01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:01,630
this has been in the in the hopper for

1525
01:08:06,180 --> 01:08:04,180
years I've known about this story I knew

1526
01:08:08,070 --> 01:08:06,190
about Jim semi ban three years ago I

1527
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:08,080
heard all these rumors that they were

1528
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:09,490
that they were going to do this kind of

1529
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:12,690
stuff and they're just unraveling it and

1530
01:08:17,340 --> 01:08:14,250
[Music]

1531
01:08:19,170 --> 01:08:17,350
I think they've got a lot of stuff it's

1532
01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:19,180
not just like these one or two more

1533
01:08:24,990 --> 01:08:21,400
videos they've got all sorts of stuff

1534
01:08:28,290 --> 01:08:25,000
lined up as to how they're going to

1535
01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:28,300
unravel this thing so they've got 24

1536
01:08:32,910 --> 01:08:31,839
videos and whether those the darker to

1537
01:08:34,740 --> 01:08:32,920
commit so you have whole committee but

1538
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:34,750
they will sort of dazzle the American

1539
01:08:38,370 --> 01:08:36,010
people there be more and more people

1540
01:08:40,140 --> 01:08:38,380
come across or even if you take a look

1541
01:08:42,030 --> 01:08:40,150
at the culeros Island and if you heard

1542
01:08:44,670 --> 01:08:42,040
the story that Bob Bigelow got all them

1543
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:44,680
stuff in the culeros Island that's 15

1544
01:08:51,180 --> 01:08:48,850
hours of video a hundred photographs or

1545
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:51,190
thousand photographs all sorts of

1546
01:08:57,090 --> 01:08:53,890
reports and stuff like that that that's

1547
01:08:58,230 --> 01:08:57,100
dramatic stuff I mean now that's it's

1548
01:09:00,660 --> 01:08:58,240
not going to convince the UFO community

1549
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:00,670
but the way that they're going to

1550
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:04,319
present this is is this you know is this

1551
01:09:10,020 --> 01:09:07,510
program of acclimatization it's the the

1552
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:10,030
Brookings Institute saying it's you've

1553
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:12,010
got to get people on board before you

1554
01:09:16,710 --> 01:09:14,170
start explaining where these people are

1555
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:16,720
from or what's what's going on very very

1556
01:09:20,940 --> 01:09:18,730
controlled narrative that that they're

1557
01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:20,950
there they're putting out there but the

1558
01:09:24,780 --> 01:09:22,510
third video I will agree with you was

1559
01:09:26,579 --> 01:09:24,790
kind of a letdown compared to the the

1560
01:09:28,620 --> 01:09:26,589
first two it was like yeah I sort of

1561
01:09:29,849 --> 01:09:28,630
looked twice to see what's on the screen

1562
01:09:32,190 --> 01:09:29,859
what are you actually looking at here

1563
01:09:34,180 --> 01:09:32,200
and and then you know you there's all

1564
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:34,190
the problems which

1565
01:09:38,290 --> 01:09:37,730
still they don't really want to answer

1566
01:09:40,420 --> 01:09:38,300
like this

1567
01:09:41,770 --> 01:09:40,430
Chain of Custody thing you know that

1568
01:09:43,330 --> 01:09:41,780
they had it well they never released the

1569
01:09:45,130 --> 01:09:43,340
Chain of Custody like the one was

1570
01:09:45,850 --> 01:09:45,140
classified well okay that we got to take

1571
01:09:48,130 --> 01:09:45,860
your word for it

1572
01:09:50,770 --> 01:09:48,140
that there's just so many problems with

1573
01:09:52,930 --> 01:09:50,780
with all this stuff and yet I go back to

1574
01:09:55,060 --> 01:09:52,940
this thing that the New York Times and

1575
01:09:57,850 --> 01:09:55,070
The Washington Post reporters were these

1576
01:10:00,340 --> 01:09:57,860
very high-level guys they had to have

1577
01:10:02,530 --> 01:10:00,350
gotten some sort of assurance inside the

1578
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:02,540
government that this thing was for real

1579
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:04,370
that that that they were gonna play this

1580
01:10:07,690 --> 01:10:06,530
game because the Washington Post was

1581
01:10:10,750 --> 01:10:07,700
last time the Washington Post did a

1582
01:10:12,580 --> 01:10:10,760
straight-up UFO piece like 1952 I mean

1583
01:10:15,580 --> 01:10:12,590
it's just been for forever they just

1584
01:10:16,810 --> 01:10:15,590
don't do UFO stories or positive UFO

1585
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:16,820
stories and you take a look at them

1586
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:20,530
they're like in the lap of the Pentagon

1587
01:10:26,890 --> 01:10:22,970
they're basically giving the Pentagon

1588
01:10:29,650 --> 01:10:26,900
lying out and it to me I've just amazed

1589
01:10:31,480 --> 01:10:29,660
that how how well it sort of come across

1590
01:10:35,470 --> 01:10:31,490
when you when you start to understand

1591
01:10:37,180 --> 01:10:35,480
that they've moved the the media which

1592
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:37,190
is I think was the main objective all

1593
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:38,330
the time it had really nothing to do

1594
01:10:41,530 --> 01:10:40,130
with the UFO community is in trying to

1595
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:41,540
convince us they're there

1596
01:10:49,480 --> 01:10:47,120
Tom Tom called me one day I was going

1597
01:10:51,970 --> 01:10:49,490
over the coast it was a Friday and I was

1598
01:10:55,060 --> 01:10:51,980
going on coast that night and he called

1599
01:10:57,010 --> 01:10:55,070
me up and said will you read a statement

1600
01:11:00,460 --> 01:10:57,020
for me on the air tonight on coast for

1601
01:11:02,590 --> 01:11:00,470
the UFO community I said sure and so he

1602
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:02,600
sent this over he texted it to me sent

1603
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:04,610
it over and then he told me you know fix

1604
01:11:09,790 --> 01:11:08,210
the typos in it and you can read this on

1605
01:11:12,430 --> 01:11:09,800
the air and this is what he sent to me

1606
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:12,440
it says I don't know if you've heard it

1607
01:11:18,490 --> 01:11:15,530
but this is he says I'd like to thank

1608
01:11:21,070 --> 01:11:18,500
you I'd like to say for all I'd like to

1609
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:21,080
say for all of your support I want to

1610
01:11:25,570 --> 01:11:23,690
thank you and as you know I created a

1611
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:25,580
vehicle that my team was able to

1612
01:11:29,860 --> 01:11:27,770
supercharge and get the Pentagon to

1613
01:11:33,130 --> 01:11:29,870
officially acknowledge the existence of

1614
01:11:35,140 --> 01:11:33,140
unidentified aerial phenomena Senator

1615
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:35,150
Harry Reid the former Majority Leader

1616
01:11:39,550 --> 01:11:36,890
went on the record as well

1617
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:39,560
Congress has ignited and briefings will

1618
01:11:44,530 --> 01:11:42,290
be starting soon if all goes well so

1619
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:44,540
bear with me as we start talking about

1620
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:47,210
more gun camera footage hardware and

1621
01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:48,110
even works

1622
01:11:52,450 --> 01:11:50,719
ants of military encounters it's all

1623
01:11:55,330 --> 01:11:52,460
coming but it's going to trickle over

1624
01:11:59,800 --> 01:11:55,340
the months ahead I want to thank you all

1625
01:12:05,050 --> 01:11:59,810
again I am one of you I am a truth

1626
01:12:08,410 --> 01:12:05,060
seeker Tom DeLonge December 29th 2017 so

1627
01:12:10,660 --> 01:12:08,420
why do a statement like that to the UFO

1628
01:12:14,290 --> 01:12:10,670
community and then turn around and give

1629
01:12:15,939 --> 01:12:14,300
him the big finger well I don't think

1630
01:12:17,649 --> 01:12:15,949
Tom belongs relieve the guy running it

1631
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:17,659
as he said to you in that statement I

1632
01:12:22,419 --> 01:12:20,239
set up the platform which they're super

1633
01:12:24,580 --> 01:12:22,429
charging or whatever he uses that's what

1634
01:12:26,500 --> 01:12:24,590
people don't realize everybody keeps the

1635
01:12:28,270 --> 01:12:26,510
New York Times I mean Leslie Kane wrote

1636
01:12:29,919 --> 01:12:28,280
this up everybody makes the same mistake

1637
01:12:31,930 --> 01:12:29,929
that's why I say gotta listen to Jimmy

1638
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:31,940
Church interview everybody says well Tom

1639
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:34,489
DeLonge set up this operation he's the

1640
01:12:38,350 --> 01:12:36,710
you know he's not no longer Tom DeLonge

1641
01:12:39,970 --> 01:12:38,360
he's Tom to Jesus he's you know he's

1642
01:12:41,740 --> 01:12:39,980
walks on water now he's the greatest guy

1643
01:12:43,629 --> 01:12:41,750
in the world stop oh yeah and people

1644
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:43,639
don't realize this it's Bill Moore all

1645
01:12:48,669 --> 01:12:46,880
over again it's the same story it's they

1646
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:48,679
contact him and invite him to the

1647
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:50,480
barbecue at Lockheed skunkworks

1648
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:52,159
and say we'd like you to introduce the

1649
01:12:55,330 --> 01:12:54,110
president and and then he goes and he

1650
01:12:57,459 --> 01:12:55,340
wants five minutes and they invite him

1651
01:12:58,870 --> 01:12:57,469
to area 51 he's got no security colors

1652
01:13:00,280 --> 01:12:58,880
he's got nothing and then they say Oh

1653
01:13:01,870 --> 01:13:00,290
we'd like you to go to the Pentagon we

1654
01:13:03,550 --> 01:13:01,880
got somebody to meet and he meets these

1655
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:03,560
two guys you know like we you know like

1656
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:05,570
smoking cigarettes or whatever in this

1657
01:13:09,910 --> 01:13:07,730
dark room type thing and then they sent

1658
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:09,920
him to Nassau and then the Nassau guy

1659
01:13:13,359 --> 01:13:11,570
sends him to the west coast and he meets

1660
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:13,369
the general and then he meets the head

1661
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:15,170
of Lockheed skunkworks and and it's like

1662
01:13:19,419 --> 01:13:17,449
they just bill more it's the same thing

1663
01:13:20,740 --> 01:13:19,429
it's like they drag him in and he did

1664
01:13:21,939 --> 01:13:20,750
set up the platform you see you got to

1665
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:21,949
give him credit he set up the platform

1666
01:13:25,390 --> 01:13:24,110
but I don't think Tom DeLonge is running

1667
01:13:28,270 --> 01:13:25,400
very much of anything anymore I think

1668
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:28,280
it's basically their operation even when

1669
01:13:32,649 --> 01:13:30,050
if you take a look remember when when he

1670
01:13:34,030 --> 01:13:32,659
did the news conference on October Dover

1671
01:13:35,379 --> 01:13:34,040
the 11th and then he said okay we're

1672
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:35,389
gonna have all this kind of stuff it's

1673
01:13:39,459 --> 01:13:37,010
all coming out and nothing happened

1674
01:13:42,129 --> 01:13:39,469
about two days before I did an update

1675
01:13:45,399 --> 01:13:42,139
about two days before the December 16th

1676
01:13:47,620 --> 01:13:45,409
release with the videos he actually had

1677
01:13:50,020 --> 01:13:47,630
a post another was on Facebook or

1678
01:13:52,450 --> 01:13:50,030
Twitter or whatever but he said oh they

1679
01:13:54,669 --> 01:13:52,460
tell me hang on another delay and he

1680
01:13:55,450 --> 01:13:54,679
goes ugh right if he doesn't even

1681
01:13:57,820 --> 01:13:55,460
believe it anymore

1682
01:13:59,320 --> 01:13:57,830
they're telling him hang on hang on it's

1683
01:14:01,450 --> 01:13:59,330
coming it's coming and they had this

1684
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:01,460
this issue that that semi ban talked

1685
01:14:03,870 --> 01:14:02,110
about

1686
01:14:05,490 --> 01:14:03,880
is they had to get this the New York

1687
01:14:07,470 --> 01:14:05,500
Times on board and the New York Times

1688
01:14:08,910 --> 01:14:07,480
has demands and and they don't

1689
01:14:10,709 --> 01:14:08,920
completely control the whole thing and

1690
01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:10,719
so here's Tom DeLonge doesn't even

1691
01:14:13,890 --> 01:14:12,159
believe it two days before the release

1692
01:14:15,390 --> 01:14:13,900
that is coming out they're dragging him

1693
01:14:16,859 --> 01:14:15,400
along as well so I don't think Tom

1694
01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:16,869
Long's really running everything and

1695
01:14:20,399 --> 01:14:18,790
everybody thinks is Tom DeLonge I think

1696
01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:20,409
in fact would they said with this

1697
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:21,790
interview that was done with Lew

1698
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:25,330
Elizondo with the interview that was

1699
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:28,239
done that was taped for UFO Congress Tom

1700
01:14:31,470 --> 01:14:29,650
DeLonge was not even in the room and

1701
01:14:33,209 --> 01:14:31,480
they did that interview I mean this is

1702
01:14:35,930 --> 01:14:33,219
you gotta remember it's Jim semi van

1703
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:35,940
it's these guys he's a US government

1704
01:14:40,410 --> 01:14:38,409
intelligence operative guys who know

1705
01:14:43,919 --> 01:14:40,420
exactly how this how this game is is

1706
01:14:45,330 --> 01:14:43,929
played how to shift opinion I don't

1707
01:14:46,709 --> 01:14:45,340
think Tom DeLonge has very much of

1708
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:46,719
anything to do he did set up the

1709
01:14:50,879 --> 01:14:49,510
platform but the platform once he got

1710
01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:50,889
the thing going and they introduced him

1711
01:14:54,780 --> 01:14:52,630
to people and all these people lined up

1712
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:54,790
it was like Bill Moore it was like

1713
01:15:01,530 --> 01:14:57,489
they're feeding him stuff and he's gonna

1714
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:01,540
get a lot of credit for it but all the

1715
01:15:04,290 --> 01:15:03,040
material is not coming from Tom's long

1716
01:15:07,290 --> 01:15:04,300
it's coming from all these other people

1717
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:07,300
and they're just using him as this

1718
01:15:12,030 --> 01:15:10,570
vehicle to to get this this this program

1719
01:15:13,770 --> 01:15:12,040
that they wanted to run for many years

1720
01:15:16,620 --> 01:15:13,780
and it I think it's it's worked very

1721
01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:16,630
well so you think Dodi even though he's

1722
01:15:24,209 --> 01:15:19,270
retired ething Dodie's got his finger in

1723
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:24,219
this pie I made contact with him I will

1724
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:27,489
be finding out he called it he called

1725
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:29,530
into this show a couple of weeks ago you

1726
01:15:33,899 --> 01:15:32,080
heard about that was the big one right

1727
01:15:36,510 --> 01:15:33,909
we talked to him for 90 minutes or yeah

1728
01:15:38,189 --> 01:15:36,520
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean he's a

1729
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:38,199
and and I see Dodi different than

1730
01:15:41,550 --> 01:15:38,800
everybody else

1731
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:41,560
I mean Dodi is he's doing the same thing

1732
01:15:47,550 --> 01:15:44,530
and it before in those years they used a

1733
01:15:50,580 --> 01:15:47,560
lot more of the thing where the way you

1734
01:15:52,020 --> 01:15:50,590
got the stuff out was you put you you

1735
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:52,030
took a document and you change the

1736
01:15:56,669 --> 01:15:53,920
document and you released the document

1737
01:15:58,050 --> 01:15:56,679
and and and and then you say it's a

1738
01:15:59,790 --> 01:15:58,060
phony document so it has the real

1739
01:16:01,740 --> 01:15:59,800
material in it and so this is what

1740
01:16:03,919 --> 01:16:01,750
Richard Doty was doing he was he was

1741
01:16:06,919 --> 01:16:03,929
putting out material and it was

1742
01:16:09,419 --> 01:16:06,929
information cloaked with disinformation

1743
01:16:11,070 --> 01:16:09,429
because if I would say like people say

1744
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:11,080
all he was dis informing people well no

1745
01:16:14,650 --> 01:16:12,610
he's not dis informing people if you

1746
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:14,660
want to dis inform people you

1747
01:16:18,670 --> 01:16:16,850
simply look at what Canada is doing what

1748
01:16:20,290 --> 01:16:18,680
Germany is doing what Australia is doing

1749
01:16:22,300 --> 01:16:20,300
and just shut up

1750
01:16:24,970 --> 01:16:22,310
the story goes away nobody knows what's

1751
01:16:29,140 --> 01:16:24,980
going on you don't you don't you know

1752
01:16:31,630 --> 01:16:29,150
get a cover-up going by saying we're

1753
01:16:34,210 --> 01:16:31,640
gonna throw people off every 51 that

1754
01:16:35,980 --> 01:16:34,220
we've got a UFO and a bunch of a live

1755
01:16:37,420 --> 01:16:35,990
alien there by telling people we've got

1756
01:16:39,370 --> 01:16:37,430
a UFO program they're in a live alien

1757
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:39,380
all you do is attract people up into the

1758
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:41,120
mountains to watch what's going on so

1759
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:43,130
what they were doing in those days was a

1760
01:16:47,170 --> 01:16:45,050
lot of this thing where you alter the

1761
01:16:49,740 --> 01:16:47,180
information and you put it out because

1762
01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:49,750
with with with Dodie in those days

1763
01:16:55,900 --> 01:16:54,800
Richard Doty was only in the Air Force

1764
01:16:58,450 --> 01:16:55,910
for a couple of years during this

1765
01:17:00,760 --> 01:16:58,460
operation there was 3,700 pages of mj-12

1766
01:17:02,170 --> 01:17:00,770
documents and almost every single one of

1767
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:02,180
them was released long after Richard

1768
01:17:06,910 --> 01:17:04,970
Doty was there or if you take a look at

1769
01:17:09,550 --> 01:17:06,920
an example I'm writing up some of the

1770
01:17:11,620 --> 01:17:09,560
stuff for maybe a future book I wrote up

1771
01:17:12,850 --> 01:17:11,630
the the whole deal with with Richard

1772
01:17:15,700 --> 01:17:12,860
Doty if you take a look at Richard

1773
01:17:18,130 --> 01:17:15,710
Odie's interaction with Linda Howe 1983

1774
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:18,140
right and you take a look so Linda Howe

1775
01:17:21,940 --> 01:17:19,850
is going in there and then you compare

1776
01:17:23,530 --> 01:17:21,950
it to lesley cane I can guarantee I've

1777
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:23,540
got it on a chart that I'm gonna show

1778
01:17:26,590 --> 01:17:25,370
I'm actually in Los Angeles next Tuesday

1779
01:17:29,140 --> 01:17:26,600
and Wednesday lecturing in Los Angeles

1780
01:17:30,610 --> 01:17:29,150
and I'm gonna show this this chart and I

1781
01:17:32,260 --> 01:17:30,620
can guarantee you if I took the names

1782
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:32,270
off the top you could not tell which was

1783
01:17:36,700 --> 01:17:34,370
less akane and which was was was Linda

1784
01:17:39,850 --> 01:17:36,710
Howe Linda Howe gets brought in to

1785
01:17:41,620 --> 01:17:39,860
Richard Doty she hears about him she

1786
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:41,630
ranges the meeting she goes on to his

1787
01:17:43,480 --> 01:17:43,010
property she goes on to Kirtland Air

1788
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:43,490
Force Base

1789
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:45,770
he sits her down he says the government

1790
01:17:49,390 --> 01:17:47,930
didn't like your documentary on you

1791
01:17:51,850 --> 01:17:49,400
caught him blindsided on your

1792
01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:51,860
documentary on cattle mutilations I've

1793
01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:53,510
got something I want you to read he

1794
01:17:58,150 --> 01:17:55,490
shows her some documents he offers her

1795
01:18:00,280 --> 01:17:58,160
film and then you look at Leslie Cain's

1796
01:18:02,290 --> 01:18:00,290
story Leslie Kane is contacted by

1797
01:18:03,850 --> 01:18:02,300
friends of Lou Elizondo and they say

1798
01:18:06,670 --> 01:18:03,860
we've got this guy we want you to meet

1799
01:18:08,980 --> 01:18:06,680
and she goes to Washington DC she goes

1800
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:08,990
to the Pentagon city she meets with Luis

1801
01:18:13,210 --> 01:18:11,090
Ando who's a counterintelligence officer

1802
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:13,220
the same as Richard Doty she sits down

1803
01:18:18,700 --> 01:18:15,890
she has shown videos she has shown

1804
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:18,710
documents and she sells it when Linda

1805
01:18:24,820 --> 01:18:22,640
how did it she was working for HBO he

1806
01:18:27,370 --> 01:18:24,830
was a reporter on a project as well

1807
01:18:28,599 --> 01:18:27,380
Leslie Cain wrote for Huffington Post so

1808
01:18:30,849 --> 01:18:28,609
it's exactly the same

1809
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:30,859
and when you had the Richard Doty thing

1810
01:18:34,719 --> 01:18:33,050
Richard Doty with Linda ha was only

1811
01:18:35,889 --> 01:18:34,729
involved for one month most people when

1812
01:18:36,969 --> 01:18:35,899
they when they tell the story they

1813
01:18:38,349 --> 01:18:36,979
always forget the second half of the

1814
01:18:40,839 --> 01:18:38,359
story in the second half of the story

1815
01:18:42,879 --> 01:18:40,849
was he pulled out and Linda was dealing

1816
01:18:44,319 --> 01:18:42,889
with another agent and then they said

1817
01:18:46,449 --> 01:18:44,329
the thing well we can't release the film

1818
01:18:47,589 --> 01:18:46,459
until after the 84 election and people

1819
01:18:49,179 --> 01:18:47,599
leave that part of the story out it

1820
01:18:51,279 --> 01:18:49,189
wasn't just Richard Doty this was

1821
01:18:53,799 --> 01:18:51,289
Richard Doty doing his job

1822
01:18:56,649 --> 01:18:53,809
there was UFOs over the nuclear weapons

1823
01:18:58,779 --> 01:18:56,659
storage area at Manzano weapons storage

1824
01:19:00,279 --> 01:18:58,789
this was the biggest weapon nuclear

1825
01:19:02,109 --> 01:19:00,289
weapons storage area in the world and

1826
01:19:04,179 --> 01:19:02,119
they had to turn this they had to stop

1827
01:19:06,429 --> 01:19:04,189
this story from from coming out Louella

1828
01:19:08,379 --> 01:19:06,439
Saunders got the same job did is the

1829
01:19:09,909 --> 01:19:08,389
story's exactly the same with with the

1830
01:19:11,619 --> 01:19:09,919
video with all this kind of stuff and

1831
01:19:13,239 --> 01:19:11,629
they just used a different technique now

1832
01:19:17,259 --> 01:19:13,249
they're using a more open technique a

1833
01:19:18,669 --> 01:19:17,269
more more sort of approach where they're

1834
01:19:21,419 --> 01:19:18,679
basically saying this thing's for real

1835
01:19:23,349 --> 01:19:21,429
and there's not that much disinformation

1836
01:19:25,359 --> 01:19:23,359
covering the thing although the video

1837
01:19:26,529 --> 01:19:25,369
does have some problems with this noise

1838
01:19:29,469 --> 01:19:26,539
in the background which I keep

1839
01:19:31,239 --> 01:19:29,479
maintaining is a problem that so I

1840
01:19:33,129 --> 01:19:31,249
always say there's a there's what I call

1841
01:19:35,469 --> 01:19:33,139
the high hurdle whether you're gonna

1842
01:19:37,149 --> 01:19:35,479
release an official government document

1843
01:19:38,619 --> 01:19:37,159
that's top secret that says UFOs are

1844
01:19:41,229 --> 01:19:38,629
real or whether they're going to release

1845
01:19:44,649 --> 01:19:41,239
a video you can't really release the

1846
01:19:46,449 --> 01:19:44,659
virial video because that's disclosure

1847
01:19:48,250 --> 01:19:46,459
that's not confirmation so what you have

1848
01:19:50,049 --> 01:19:48,260
to do is change it and I always thought

1849
01:19:52,599 --> 01:19:50,059
that with this video they put that noise

1850
01:19:54,579 --> 01:19:52,609
in the background and when Eric Davis

1851
01:19:56,169 --> 01:19:54,589
who's this chief scientist for put off

1852
01:19:58,449 --> 01:19:56,179
was asked about he said well that's the

1853
01:20:00,819 --> 01:19:58,459
guy left his mic open it mic he forgot

1854
01:20:02,829 --> 01:20:00,829
to turn off his mic and and they need EV

1855
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:02,839
18 well all three videos have that

1856
01:20:06,669 --> 01:20:04,489
vacuum cleaner noise in the background

1857
01:20:08,799 --> 01:20:06,679
and if you listen to the f-18 chatter

1858
01:20:11,049 --> 01:20:08,809
you don't hear that that noise and so

1859
01:20:12,969 --> 01:20:11,059
the question I always said was well did

1860
01:20:14,649 --> 01:20:12,979
they alter the video I mean is the video

1861
01:20:16,299 --> 01:20:14,659
altered to put the noise and then they

1862
01:20:17,889 --> 01:20:16,309
could say no it's not the real video

1863
01:20:19,869 --> 01:20:17,899
it's not is it right it's the video

1864
01:20:21,639 --> 01:20:19,879
right you you you alter and that's what

1865
01:20:23,109 --> 01:20:21,649
they were doing in the 1980s because

1866
01:20:23,829 --> 01:20:23,119
that's what Bill Moore was told right

1867
01:20:26,379 --> 01:20:23,839
from the word go

1868
01:20:28,060 --> 01:20:26,389
he was told by the Faulk and he said I'm

1869
01:20:30,639 --> 01:20:28,070
going to give you some material and

1870
01:20:32,259 --> 01:20:30,649
you're gonna have to separate the wheat

1871
01:20:34,060 --> 01:20:32,269
from the chaff some of its gonna be real

1872
01:20:35,619 --> 01:20:34,070
some but it's not gonna be real and Bill

1873
01:20:37,809 --> 01:20:35,629
Moore of course he's like Tom DeLonge

1874
01:20:40,059 --> 01:20:37,819
you need an ego to play this game so

1875
01:20:41,770 --> 01:20:40,069
bill Moore said oh yeah I can do that no

1876
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:41,780
problem he was actually CIA and I

1877
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:42,770
identified his

1878
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:44,810
an update I just did Bill Moore was CIA

1879
01:20:48,730 --> 01:20:46,370
he worked for the CIA when he was

1880
01:20:50,530 --> 01:20:48,740
recruited at at University and he

1881
01:20:51,850 --> 01:20:50,540
figured he could play the game he could

1882
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:51,860
get down on the inside

1883
01:20:55,810 --> 01:20:53,570
and so you could bill more gets on the

1884
01:20:58,210 --> 01:20:55,820
inside in the 1980s and what happens

1885
01:20:59,890 --> 01:20:58,220
1989 he goes to the MUFON conference in

1886
01:21:01,300 --> 01:20:59,900
Las Vegas under thrown stuff at him and

1887
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:01,310
they're yelling and he's got to go out

1888
01:21:05,710 --> 01:21:03,890
the back door and now today Tom DeLonge

1889
01:21:08,050 --> 01:21:05,720
does exactly the same thing yes inside

1890
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:08,060
the you the the intelligence and the

1891
01:21:10,990 --> 01:21:09,530
Defense Department he gets a bunch of

1892
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:11,000
sources in there and they're feeding on

1893
01:21:14,620 --> 01:21:12,650
material and he gets researcher of the

1894
01:21:16,780 --> 01:21:14,630
Year award bill Moore got thrown out of

1895
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:16,790
the field he had to he had to get retire

1896
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:18,800
and it's a completely different world

1897
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:20,960
than it was in 1980s but Bill Moore and

1898
01:21:24,370 --> 01:21:22,880
Tom DeLonge I'll absolutely guarantee

1899
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:24,380
are doing exactly the same thing bill

1900
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:26,810
Moore at 24 sources Tom DeLonge has

1901
01:21:33,610 --> 01:21:31,250
probably high-level sources maybe 15 but

1902
01:21:35,410 --> 01:21:33,620
the the is what's called this cosmic

1903
01:21:37,750 --> 01:21:35,420
Club there's over 40 people there's a

1904
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:37,760
lot of people connected to Tom DeLonge

1905
01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:40,490
now huge numbers of people and I sit

1906
01:21:43,650 --> 01:21:42,110
there and I know who most these people

1907
01:21:46,450 --> 01:21:43,660
are and I just sit there and listen to

1908
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:46,460
what they say a lot of people are into

1909
01:21:53,410 --> 01:21:50,690
this game and Tom DeLonge did set up

1910
01:21:54,910 --> 01:21:53,420
this operation and I think it's III

1911
01:21:56,910 --> 01:21:54,920
think I'm probably different to most

1912
01:22:00,850 --> 01:21:56,920
people I think it's running extremely

1913
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:00,860
welcome in in terms of what I think they

1914
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:03,890
they intended to do well let me have you

1915
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:06,800
heard I've gotten a collection of

1916
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:09,890
information coming at me and I welcome

1917
01:22:14,170 --> 01:22:12,170
input from around the country and around

1918
01:22:16,630 --> 01:22:14,180
the world if you've heard anything about

1919
01:22:19,870 --> 01:22:16,640
this but that there are a number of

1920
01:22:23,620 --> 01:22:19,880
states right now in the u.s. that are

1921
01:22:27,010 --> 01:22:23,630
not allowing stock to be sold or traded

1922
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:27,020
in to the Stars Academy yeah Canada had

1923
01:22:30,100 --> 01:22:28,370
blocked it long ago already

1924
01:22:31,630 --> 01:22:30,110
right you were trying to find out why

1925
01:22:33,580 --> 01:22:31,640
that may have something to do somebody

1926
01:22:35,500 --> 01:22:33,590
said had something to do with if you can

1927
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:35,510
use a credit card they apparently

1928
01:22:39,490 --> 01:22:37,370
allowed you use a credit card to buy it

1929
01:22:41,170 --> 01:22:39,500
in a lot of places if you you can't buy

1930
01:22:43,090 --> 01:22:41,180
stock with a credit card something like

1931
01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:43,100
that III didn't thought like but Canada

1932
01:22:47,770 --> 01:22:45,710
block them almost right at the word go

1933
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:47,780
Canadians cannot buy stock well and

1934
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:49,610
another thing that I've noticed and I've

1935
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:51,050
gone back and I check you know about

1936
01:22:55,250 --> 01:22:53,450
once a week they got to the two and a

1937
01:22:57,260 --> 01:22:55,260
half million dollar level

1938
01:22:58,340 --> 01:22:57,270
like out of the gate and they haven't it

1939
01:23:02,330 --> 01:22:58,350
stopped

1940
01:23:04,700 --> 01:23:02,340
it's it hasn't gone anywhere and if you

1941
01:23:07,310 --> 01:23:04,710
have and I'm looking at the the staff

1942
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:07,320
there and let's say let's pull out round

1943
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:09,090
numbers that everybody is getting a

1944
01:23:13,820 --> 01:23:11,730
hundred grand a year right may you know

1945
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:13,830
maybe a little more Tom gets his four

1946
01:23:17,480 --> 01:23:15,930
hundred thousand investment back

1947
01:23:20,930 --> 01:23:17,490
immediately out of this two and a half

1948
01:23:22,940 --> 01:23:20,940
million so out of that the they're gonna

1949
01:23:24,860 --> 01:23:22,950
run out of funding here really really

1950
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:24,870
quickly there can't be a whole lot of

1951
01:23:28,490 --> 01:23:26,490
money left and you know they went and

1952
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:28,500
got some swanky offices down there in

1953
01:23:32,780 --> 01:23:31,650
Escondido yeah but that's why I don't

1954
01:23:35,060 --> 01:23:32,790
think it's going to do it the money I

1955
01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:35,070
don't think I mean maybe Tom DeLonge is

1956
01:23:39,380 --> 01:23:37,110
like he's selling books he's doing you

1957
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:39,390
know you know he's got some new book

1958
01:23:42,530 --> 01:23:40,890
coming out you could have all six books

1959
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:42,540
to find out with disclosure is all about

1960
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:44,130
and he's you know selling t-shirts and

1961
01:23:48,050 --> 01:23:46,080
and that's his deal I mean like we had

1962
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:48,060
the Bob Lazar thing and he and he so he

1963
01:23:51,860 --> 01:23:49,770
he describes Bob Lazar has got the

1964
01:23:53,660 --> 01:23:51,870
lifetime rights for Bob Lazar video

1965
01:23:55,550 --> 01:23:53,670
story or whatever it's like everything

1966
01:23:58,970 --> 01:23:55,560
everything to him is is a money-making

1967
01:24:01,250 --> 01:23:58,980
story and and he's not really into the I

1968
01:24:03,050 --> 01:24:01,260
think his his role in this thing what

1969
01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:03,060
he's doing is completely different than

1970
01:24:06,530 --> 01:24:04,560
what the intelligence people are doing

1971
01:24:09,020 --> 01:24:06,540
they're they're really not into the

1972
01:24:11,630 --> 01:24:09,030
money thing and we all know that the

1973
01:24:13,730 --> 01:24:11,640
money is not going to buy anything and

1974
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:13,740
yet what I'm going to be talking about

1975
01:24:17,330 --> 01:24:15,360
in Los Angeles next Tuesday and

1976
01:24:18,620 --> 01:24:17,340
Wednesday I'm gonna talk about what I

1977
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:18,630
think is important the experience was

1978
01:24:22,490 --> 01:24:20,490
saying there are four components to the

1979
01:24:23,870 --> 01:24:22,500
to the if you leave out the money

1980
01:24:24,050 --> 01:24:23,880
there's four components to this whole

1981
01:24:26,570 --> 01:24:24,060
thing

1982
01:24:27,890 --> 01:24:26,580
there's the diva reports is 38 reports

1983
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:27,900
which don't mean anything cuz they're

1984
01:24:32,030 --> 01:24:29,610
basically just reports on theoretical

1985
01:24:33,470 --> 01:24:32,040
ideas about how propulsion works at how

1986
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:33,480
he could get to the stars and all kind

1987
01:24:37,970 --> 01:24:36,330
of that means nothing they've the the

1988
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:37,980
metal that's going to show very clearly

1989
01:24:43,010 --> 01:24:39,270
that something's going on if you've got

1990
01:24:44,780 --> 01:24:43,020
this 80 pieces 80 levels of material and

1991
01:24:46,430 --> 01:24:44,790
has these weird properties and weird

1992
01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:46,440
isotopes of stuff yeah that means

1993
01:24:50,060 --> 01:24:48,450
something very weird is going on it just

1994
01:24:51,470 --> 01:24:50,070
confirms again it just confirms that

1995
01:24:53,660 --> 01:24:51,480
there's a phenomena that we have to look

1996
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:53,670
at here and and then you have the the

1997
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:54,810
videos which aren't going anywhere

1998
01:24:58,880 --> 01:24:56,970
they're not really proven anything but

1999
01:25:01,130 --> 01:24:58,890
it's the other thing and what I'm told

2000
01:25:03,380 --> 01:25:01,140
and I'm gonna play some some audio there

2001
01:25:05,180 --> 01:25:03,390
from this program the one is the fourth

2002
01:25:06,650 --> 01:25:05,190
element is the experiencer one and I'm

2003
01:25:08,030 --> 01:25:06,660
not sure whether it's Washington Post to

2004
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:08,040
New York Times talked about the

2005
01:25:11,850 --> 01:25:09,130
experience of thing

2006
01:25:13,710 --> 01:25:11,860
this I am told is a I heard rumor this

2007
01:25:16,110 --> 01:25:13,720
is an 8 year program and they have a

2008
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:16,120
sponsor so this is not coming from Tom

2009
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:17,770
belongs money I don't think this is

2010
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:18,730
coming from somewhere else because

2011
01:25:23,220 --> 01:25:21,130
because semi van said to us it's really

2012
01:25:24,750 --> 01:25:23,230
not part of the Tom DeLonge operation so

2013
01:25:29,610 --> 01:25:24,760
you know about this thing with with help

2014
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:29,620
put off and Gary Nolan and kid green

2015
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:31,570
formerly from the CIA but they're

2016
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:33,250
working on these experiencers and I just

2017
01:25:37,350 --> 01:25:35,290
had another one I was identified to me

2018
01:25:39,090 --> 01:25:37,360
yesterday and he's agreed to be

2019
01:25:41,730 --> 01:25:39,100
interviewed about about what what he's

2020
01:25:43,230 --> 01:25:41,740
his role is because he's being looked at

2021
01:25:45,180 --> 01:25:43,240
by them and what they do is they take

2022
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:45,190
experiences and highly psychic people so

2023
01:25:49,950 --> 01:25:48,400
uri geller mcmoneagle Ingo Swann they've

2024
01:25:51,660 --> 01:25:49,960
got all their DNA and stuff like that

2025
01:25:54,930 --> 01:25:51,670
and what they're looking at is highly

2026
01:25:56,460 --> 01:25:54,940
psychic people and and experiencers who

2027
01:25:58,230 --> 01:25:56,470
have been injured so a lot of these are

2028
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:58,240
our military people who have gotten too

2029
01:26:00,840 --> 01:25:59,440
close to the craft or something like

2030
01:26:02,430 --> 01:26:00,850
that and they've got these these

2031
01:26:03,870 --> 01:26:02,440
injuries and they're looking at these

2032
01:26:06,690 --> 01:26:03,880
people and what they find out is that

2033
01:26:08,460 --> 01:26:06,700
the way Gary Nolan described it is they

2034
01:26:10,380 --> 01:26:08,470
have this brain pattern and they call it

2035
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:10,390
the antenna so what they're looking at

2036
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:12,400
and then this makes sense this is what a

2037
01:26:16,050 --> 01:26:14,770
smart Intelligence Agency would do is if

2038
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:16,060
you want to know what's going on you

2039
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:17,530
have these people who are saying I'm

2040
01:26:22,140 --> 01:26:19,810
interacting with this alien and you

2041
01:26:24,090 --> 01:26:22,150
watch them and you start to study them

2042
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:24,100
and and what they say is they have this

2043
01:26:28,290 --> 01:26:26,290
antenna they're able to tune in to

2044
01:26:30,180 --> 01:26:28,300
whatever this phenomena is and they all

2045
01:26:32,700 --> 01:26:30,190
have the same brain pattern and they all

2046
01:26:34,410 --> 01:26:32,710
have a DNA marker from what I'm told so

2047
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:34,420
they're looking at the DNA is there

2048
01:26:38,940 --> 01:26:36,880
something unique about highly psychic be

2049
01:26:41,790 --> 01:26:38,950
a psychic people like yeller

2050
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:41,800
Swan all these people and UFO

2051
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:43,090
experiences and what they're finding is

2052
01:26:46,110 --> 01:26:44,650
yes there is this connection and I'm

2053
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:46,120
told us an eight year program and it's

2054
01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:48,610
not really part of the to the stars

2055
01:26:52,260 --> 01:26:51,040
thing so you have some money there

2056
01:26:53,550 --> 01:26:52,270
that's coming in from somewhere else

2057
01:26:55,130 --> 01:26:53,560
whether it's Bigelow putting up the

2058
01:26:58,620 --> 01:26:55,140
money or whoever's putting up the money

2059
01:27:01,380 --> 01:26:58,630
but the the thing with Tom DeLonge it's

2060
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:01,390
never really what Tom DeLonge does I

2061
01:27:05,010 --> 01:27:03,250
don't even listen to him I just sort of

2062
01:27:06,450 --> 01:27:05,020
ignore in fact he's off the record

2063
01:27:07,890 --> 01:27:06,460
either it really doesn't talk you

2064
01:27:09,420 --> 01:27:07,900
probably last guy he talked to he

2065
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:09,430
doesn't talk to anybody it's almost like

2066
01:27:13,890 --> 01:27:11,440
they've got him and tell them you know

2067
01:27:16,140 --> 01:27:13,900
go produce your books go do this thing

2068
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:16,150
and we'll run this operation you have

2069
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:18,880
the intelligence and the defense people

2070
01:27:22,419 --> 01:27:21,610
who are I absolutely firmly believe are

2071
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:22,429
now running the show

2072
01:27:28,510 --> 01:27:24,650
yeah I don't think there's any question

2073
01:27:32,410 --> 01:27:28,520
about that the agenda and what it is

2074
01:27:35,470 --> 01:27:32,420
that is driving it that is what is is

2075
01:27:37,209 --> 01:27:35,480
the most curious part you know you have

2076
01:27:39,610 --> 01:27:37,219
to is is it money

2077
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:39,620
is it is that what's driving it the

2078
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:41,449
technology I'm not talking about to the

2079
01:27:45,939 --> 01:27:43,130
stars and Tom DeLonge I'm talking about

2080
01:27:47,490 --> 01:27:45,949
those motivated to steered the long

2081
01:27:52,060 --> 01:27:47,500
until the stars in a certain direction

2082
01:27:58,060 --> 01:27:52,070
the bill more comparison here is is so

2083
01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:58,070
textbook you know so does do they have

2084
01:28:03,550 --> 01:28:01,280
their agenda and meet those ends and Tom

2085
01:28:06,939 --> 01:28:03,560
DeLonge gets driven into the ground and

2086
01:28:10,689 --> 01:28:06,949
has a an end to his story like Bill

2087
01:28:12,910 --> 01:28:10,699
Moore or is there another ending to this

2088
01:28:14,740 --> 01:28:12,920
book where there is something that is

2089
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:14,750
exposed and technology is brought

2090
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:16,850
forward to the community and to the

2091
01:28:22,030 --> 01:28:19,310
stars is allowed to sell that technology

2092
01:28:24,490 --> 01:28:22,040
into the corporate sector that's that's

2093
01:28:26,890 --> 01:28:24,500
I don't know and it's one of those

2094
01:28:29,410 --> 01:28:26,900
endings is probably is what's going to

2095
01:28:31,090 --> 01:28:29,420
happen well I'll give you I'll give you

2096
01:28:32,620 --> 01:28:31,100
another little thing that I'll talk a

2097
01:28:35,260 --> 01:28:32,630
little bit about in Los Angeles next

2098
01:28:37,810 --> 01:28:35,270
week oh let me jump in let me jump in a

2099
01:28:41,169 --> 01:28:37,820
grant grant is going to be at you parse

2100
01:28:43,450 --> 01:28:41,179
right here in Studio City in the valley

2101
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:43,460
and that's going to be on Tuesday night

2102
01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:47,050
and you can go to you pars on Meetup and

2103
01:28:52,300 --> 01:28:49,760
and find out all about that and of

2104
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:52,310
course grants website and and Facebook

2105
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:54,650
it'll all be there but then on Wednesday

2106
01:28:59,500 --> 01:28:57,290
he's gonna be at MUFON in Orange County

2107
01:29:02,500 --> 01:28:59,510
so two nights in a row Southern

2108
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:02,510
California we get the full grant Cameron

2109
01:29:07,090 --> 01:29:04,610
experience okay so there you go grant

2110
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:07,100
there's your plug yeah I wish I there

2111
01:29:13,060 --> 01:29:09,170
are we can we do the big expose with

2112
01:29:15,189 --> 01:29:13,070
with Mellon Leslie I and and Danny

2113
01:29:17,979 --> 01:29:15,199
Sheehan and we're gonna we're gonna do

2114
01:29:19,450 --> 01:29:17,989
the whole thing because Melinda worked

2115
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:19,460
on this story for 25 years I didn't

2116
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:21,110
realize that she came up with the same

2117
01:29:26,590 --> 01:29:23,570
where's this gonna be where's this gonna

2118
01:29:28,450 --> 01:29:26,600
be but that's it's at San Francisco near

2119
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:28,460
the airport I think it's the Holiday Inn

2120
01:29:34,919 --> 01:29:29,210
near the airport

2121
01:29:36,500 --> 01:29:34,929
that's UFO con and it's a big expose

2122
01:29:38,630 --> 01:29:36,510
disclosure expose

2123
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:38,640
and Melinda is gonna do a lecture and

2124
01:29:41,930 --> 01:29:40,050
I'm gonna do a lecture she's gonna do

2125
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:41,940
some of the old stuff and she interacted

2126
01:29:46,490 --> 01:29:43,920
with a lot of the bill Moore's people I

2127
01:29:47,570 --> 01:29:46,500
didn't realize this I I I'm always I hit

2128
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make the joke I'm always one step

2129
01:29:51,500 --> 01:29:49,950
removed from my victim I always sit

2130
01:29:53,060 --> 01:29:51,510
there and I have people who are talking

2131
01:29:55,010 --> 01:29:53,070
to these people but I never really

2132
01:29:58,010 --> 01:29:55,020
talked to anything are you saying that

2133
01:30:00,500 --> 01:29:58,020
Melinda when Bill Moore was on the

2134
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circuit in the 80s that Melinda was

2135
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:02,280
dealing with bill Moore's people in the

2136
01:30:09,110 --> 01:30:07,050
80s late 80s Early 90s yeah and she's

2137
01:30:11,900 --> 01:30:09,120
injured she actually confronted a number

2138
01:30:13,130 --> 01:30:11,910
of them and she's going to some of these

2139
01:30:15,500 --> 01:30:13,140
people that she talked to she's gonna

2140
01:30:17,540 --> 01:30:15,510
talk to and what they told her and what

2141
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:17,550
they told her is back basically the same

2142
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:21,210
thing that I said that the idea is that

2143
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:23,010
they are there there's people inside the

2144
01:30:29,150 --> 01:30:26,730
UFO community who are there - I think

2145
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:29,160
she you have to listen to her version of

2146
01:30:36,020 --> 01:30:31,410
the story and what she says to spin the

2147
01:30:37,700 --> 01:30:36,030
story and control it and move it away

2148
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:37,710
when it gets too close to classified

2149
01:30:41,630 --> 01:30:40,170
information and so these people are in

2150
01:30:43,100 --> 01:30:41,640
there then and that's why I called the

2151
01:30:44,450 --> 01:30:43,110
book managing magic that's what they're

2152
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:44,460
doing they're managing this story

2153
01:30:48,230 --> 01:30:46,170
they're trying to move it out but

2154
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:48,240
they're also trying to control the story

2155
01:30:52,700 --> 01:30:50,010
from going different places they don't

2156
01:30:56,180 --> 01:30:52,710
want it to go and so she worked on these

2157
01:30:57,980 --> 01:30:56,190
people and she mentions you know the

2158
01:31:01,100 --> 01:30:57,990
people that she talked to and I'll let

2159
01:31:03,890 --> 01:31:01,110
her describe but I didn't realize I only

2160
01:31:05,210 --> 01:31:03,900
knew this last November she met me at at

2161
01:31:07,490 --> 01:31:05,220
Laughlin she said I need to have a

2162
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:07,500
minute interview with you and talk with

2163
01:31:11,150 --> 01:31:09,330
you and I've been doing this and I tell

2164
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:11,160
everybody to watch all your updates and

2165
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:13,170
stuff that it's the homework and and

2166
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:14,730
I've done this and I said you've done it

2167
01:31:19,490 --> 01:31:16,770
and she and she gave me 80 pages of

2168
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:19,500
notes of all the people that she talked

2169
01:31:23,300 --> 01:31:21,450
to and how this all she's got a flow

2170
01:31:24,950 --> 01:31:23,310
chart of all these people and how she

2171
01:31:27,260 --> 01:31:24,960
thinks they'll link together might list

2172
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:27,270
is a lot longer nurse and I have maybe

2173
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:28,770
different oppressions exactly what

2174
01:31:33,020 --> 01:31:31,110
they're doing but but she in the 80s and

2175
01:31:35,390 --> 01:31:33,030
90s she was dealing with a life because

2176
01:31:37,670 --> 01:31:35,400
she was in in the los angeles area she

2177
01:31:39,620 --> 01:31:37,680
and you know a lot of the aerospace

2178
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:39,630
stuff is there and a lot of these people

2179
01:31:43,730 --> 01:31:41,730
showed at Orange County MUFON and and

2180
01:31:44,990 --> 01:31:43,740
these people were around there so she

2181
01:31:47,090 --> 01:31:45,000
interacted with a lot of these people

2182
01:31:49,010 --> 01:31:47,100
and and she's very you know she's like

2183
01:31:50,129 --> 01:31:49,020
she's she's in their face I mean I'm not

2184
01:31:52,229 --> 01:31:50,139
she's very

2185
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confrontational and shield if she wants

2186
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:53,679
to ask a question to somebody she's not

2187
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afraid of everybody

2188
01:32:00,419 --> 01:31:56,679
i I don't really encounter anybody I

2189
01:32:02,399 --> 01:32:00,429
don't confront grant I got it I got an

2190
01:32:04,620 --> 01:32:02,409
encounter you right now and take it to

2191
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take a commercial break let's do that

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we'll be right back love we'll pick up

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right where we are leaving off the one

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01:32:18,930 --> 01:32:10,300
of the only grant Cameron joins us

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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you're listening to faint and black

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2255
01:35:27,410 --> 01:35:25,380
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01:36:20,930 --> 01:36:18,890
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2261
01:36:24,980 --> 01:36:20,940
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2277
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grant staying on this I think the

2278
01:37:15,610 --> 01:37:12,630
comparisons to Bill Moore are inevitable

2279
01:37:19,190 --> 01:37:15,620
and also fascinating this is the thing

2280
01:37:23,300 --> 01:37:19,200
when it comes to that and you're

2281
01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:23,310
comparing Dodie to Elizondo and again

2282
01:37:27,650 --> 01:37:25,110
it's like it's right there it's staring

2283
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:27,660
at us in the face how do we trust at

2284
01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:30,810
that point you know I know you have your

2285
01:37:35,900 --> 01:37:33,360
opinions about Dodie but how do we trust

2286
01:37:39,470 --> 01:37:35,910
Elizondo and if his intentions are

2287
01:37:42,170 --> 01:37:39,480
honest and sincere I think you just have

2288
01:37:44,510 --> 01:37:42,180
to read him I've listened to probably

2289
01:37:48,770 --> 01:37:44,520
every interview he's given I haven't

2290
01:37:51,050 --> 01:37:48,780
gotten any sort of real when when

2291
01:37:52,700 --> 01:37:51,060
somebody's telling the story they'll say

2292
01:37:54,140 --> 01:37:52,710
something like they'll bring up Roswell

2293
01:37:56,450 --> 01:37:54,150
do something at the wrong time in

2294
01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:56,460
history when it didn't exist or air 51

2295
01:38:02,150 --> 01:37:57,600
when they would term wasn't being used

2296
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:02,160
there's nothing that he said that that

2297
01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:04,410
sort of ticks me off I'm more interested

2298
01:38:08,930 --> 01:38:07,440
in the others because I know that a lot

2299
01:38:11,150 --> 01:38:08,940
of people are saying okay you have evil

2300
01:38:13,310 --> 01:38:11,160
government guys but in this case the

2301
01:38:17,780 --> 01:38:13,320
vast majority of these people that are

2302
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:17,790
involved are experiences you have Jim

2303
01:38:21,650 --> 01:38:19,440
semi van for sure as an experiencer

2304
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:21,660
there's a high level guy in NASA who has

2305
01:38:25,790 --> 01:38:24,930
not put his name in the in the thing yet

2306
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:25,800
but he's part of this

2307
01:38:30,049 --> 01:38:28,530
he's definitely experienced here he told

2308
01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:30,059
me his experience but

2309
01:38:34,279 --> 01:38:32,400
the beings in the bedroom Gary Nolan

2310
01:38:37,209 --> 01:38:34,289
died believes an experiencer if you

2311
01:38:39,529 --> 01:38:37,219
listen to Jack Sarfati

2312
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:39,539
help put off had an experience when he

2313
01:38:44,330 --> 01:38:42,449
was young Eric Davis for sure got into

2314
01:38:47,540 --> 01:38:44,340
this because of a UFO sighting that he

2315
01:38:49,010 --> 01:38:47,550
had and I think 1989 so you don't have

2316
01:38:51,260 --> 01:38:49,020
people who are doing this because

2317
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:51,270
they're working for government or

2318
01:38:57,049 --> 01:38:54,090
whatever these are people who are like

2319
01:38:58,520 --> 01:38:57,059
you and I who caught the bug by seeing

2320
01:39:00,529 --> 01:38:58,530
something and they're determined to

2321
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:00,539
figure this out so I and and the people

2322
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:04,170
that I've met and and over the this

2323
01:39:08,330 --> 01:39:07,110
period of time once you meet them

2324
01:39:10,339 --> 01:39:08,340
face-to-face you have a different

2325
01:39:11,750 --> 01:39:10,349
impression then when you hear the

2326
01:39:13,910 --> 01:39:11,760
stories behind the scenes when you meet

2327
01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:13,920
amigo Jesus not that bad a guy I mean

2328
01:39:17,089 --> 01:39:15,360
he's just like you know maybe people

2329
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:17,099
have got them read wrong when you see

2330
01:39:21,169 --> 01:39:19,110
him but I I I listen to all of them and

2331
01:39:23,390 --> 01:39:21,179
I have over a hundred people on the list

2332
01:39:25,700 --> 01:39:23,400
so I'm not relying on one or two people

2333
01:39:27,529 --> 01:39:25,710
I I believe there's a hundred people in

2334
01:39:29,419 --> 01:39:27,539
this story and I listen to what

2335
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:29,429
everybody says so you can its whether

2336
01:39:34,189 --> 01:39:31,530
you're talking Pandolfi or with your

2337
01:39:37,580 --> 01:39:34,199
talk in Elizondo or whoever I listen to

2338
01:39:40,010 --> 01:39:37,590
them all and I try to get a story based

2339
01:39:42,740 --> 01:39:40,020
upon what a hundred people are saying

2340
01:39:44,359 --> 01:39:42,750
and and I don't really take anybody what

2341
01:39:46,010 --> 01:39:44,369
people do is they they sort of separate

2342
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:46,020
the we you know there's good guys and

2343
01:39:51,350 --> 01:39:48,210
bad guys and the mistake you make by

2344
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:51,360
doing that is that you sort of pick your

2345
01:39:55,129 --> 01:39:53,489
religion and you figure out okay this is

2346
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:55,139
a good guy and you start listening to

2347
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:56,639
one person and I think that is the

2348
01:39:59,540 --> 01:39:58,170
dangerous part is that you should we

2349
01:40:01,700 --> 01:39:59,550
listen to what they're all saying and

2350
01:40:03,950 --> 01:40:01,710
trying to put a story together and to me

2351
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:03,960
the story makes pretty good sense as to

2352
01:40:08,299 --> 01:40:06,570
as to what's going on in faith in the

2353
01:40:10,580 --> 01:40:08,309
example of that is Bill more people give

2354
01:40:12,319 --> 01:40:10,590
bill more a bad rap I can say that bill

2355
01:40:14,450 --> 01:40:12,329
more cuz I was I was with bill more I

2356
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:14,460
was around when he was there he's the

2357
01:40:20,060 --> 01:40:18,210
only guy in the entire UFO community who

2358
01:40:22,609 --> 01:40:20,070
actually helped me with dr. Eric Walker

2359
01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:22,619
and for that I I say I mean could he be

2360
01:40:27,709 --> 01:40:24,719
that bad a guy he actually sent kit

2361
01:40:29,270 --> 01:40:27,719
green from the CIA and to interview dr.

2362
01:40:31,970 --> 01:40:29,280
Walker and he end up getting thrown out

2363
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:31,980
of the office but he actually helped me

2364
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:33,570
and he answered my questions to you when

2365
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:34,650
I asked him stuff

2366
01:40:39,049 --> 01:40:37,050
I've dealt with he'll put off for many

2367
01:40:40,819 --> 01:40:39,059
years and every time I've asked him a

2368
01:40:43,890 --> 01:40:40,829
question it's been like I asked him did

2369
01:40:45,540 --> 01:40:43,900
the presidents get briefed on reviewing

2370
01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:45,550
I know he was going after the Holmen air

2371
01:40:48,990 --> 01:40:47,260
force base film he came to me about that

2372
01:40:51,149 --> 01:40:49,000
I know that and this is a story that I

2373
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:51,159
want to tell before the end of the show

2374
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:52,810
I've got another thing I'm gonna

2375
01:40:57,180 --> 01:40:55,330
disclose in Los Angeles he knew the

2376
01:41:01,080 --> 01:40:57,190
importance of a guy by the name of

2377
01:41:03,180 --> 01:41:01,090
Arthur lund all who when the guy picks

2378
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:03,190
up on that then I know this guy's legit

2379
01:41:08,700 --> 01:41:05,110
he knows what's going on he knows what

2380
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:08,710
the the important guy and I had a

2381
01:41:16,620 --> 01:41:14,320
collection of UFO writings from help art

2382
01:41:18,959 --> 01:41:16,630
Lundell who was the first guy around a

2383
01:41:22,620 --> 01:41:18,969
weird desk at the CIA the UFO thing and

2384
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:22,630
that was back in the 50s and 60s and Hal

2385
01:41:27,300 --> 01:41:23,920
said Oh view I heard you've got this

2386
01:41:29,010 --> 01:41:27,310
this file of his writings can I get a

2387
01:41:31,410 --> 01:41:29,020
copy of that file and then I knew that

2388
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:31,420
he knew the importance of this and I've

2389
01:41:35,310 --> 01:41:33,370
dealt with most of the people and to the

2390
01:41:35,729 --> 01:41:35,320
Stars I haven't dealt with the long or

2391
01:41:38,430 --> 01:41:35,739
whatever

2392
01:41:40,830 --> 01:41:38,440
I've indirectly dealt with a lot of them

2393
01:41:42,689 --> 01:41:40,840
and I just find out that they're just I

2394
01:41:44,399 --> 01:41:42,699
mean they may be deluded so that's where

2395
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:44,409
I people will say good and bad I really

2396
01:41:47,850 --> 01:41:45,730
don't believe in good bad I believe in

2397
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:47,860
in belief systems so people are deluded

2398
01:41:51,930 --> 01:41:50,080
they get some idea in their head and and

2399
01:41:53,340 --> 01:41:51,940
that makes them do stupid things so I

2400
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:53,350
believe there's a lot of deluded people

2401
01:42:01,560 --> 01:41:56,800
but the people that I've met I really

2402
01:42:02,910 --> 01:42:01,570
can't say I would say that there have

2403
01:42:04,290 --> 01:42:02,920
that problem with whistleblowers but not

2404
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:04,300
with these with these guys and I've

2405
01:42:08,250 --> 01:42:05,650
dealt with a lot with a lot of these

2406
01:42:11,340 --> 01:42:08,260
people but they do have very distinct

2407
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:11,350
views on things that maybe I don't agree

2408
01:42:15,060 --> 01:42:13,090
with or you know whether they believe in

2409
01:42:16,830 --> 01:42:15,070
evil aliens or how they see that kind of

2410
01:42:19,919 --> 01:42:16,840
stuff or their religious beliefs or

2411
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:19,929
stuff like that but so that's that's all

2412
01:42:25,919 --> 01:42:24,250
I can really say about that it's I think

2413
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:25,929
that's the best way for me to go is to

2414
01:42:30,209 --> 01:42:28,690
have this in huge lists and and to give

2415
01:42:34,020 --> 01:42:30,219
you an idea you start seeing these

2416
01:42:36,090 --> 01:42:34,030
patterns again that Bill Moore was just

2417
01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:36,100
a guy who believed that he was smart

2418
01:42:39,660 --> 01:42:37,900
like Tom DeLonge he could get in on the

2419
01:42:40,979 --> 01:42:39,670
inside he could figure this thing out

2420
01:42:43,100 --> 01:42:40,989
and he was trying to figure it out and

2421
01:42:45,780 --> 01:42:43,110
when it all sort of blew up in his face

2422
01:42:48,450 --> 01:42:45,790
the ego he couldn't take it and he had

2423
01:42:49,740 --> 01:42:48,460
to leave the field and one of the things

2424
01:42:51,330 --> 01:42:49,750
I'm going to talk about in Los Angeles

2425
01:42:53,100 --> 01:42:51,340
is I've just been this the second time

2426
01:42:55,350 --> 01:42:53,110
this happened to me I've got some

2427
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:55,360
documents I've got now now 99 pages of

2428
01:42:57,580 --> 01:42:57,250
documents and this has to do with an

2429
01:42:58,899 --> 01:42:57,590
eyes

2430
01:43:01,270 --> 01:42:58,909
only briefing for a President of the

2431
01:43:03,459 --> 01:43:01,280
United States and there's a negotiation

2432
01:43:06,430 --> 01:43:03,469
going on now to get the rest of the what

2433
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:06,440
it was was a guy who ran this program it

2434
01:43:09,399 --> 01:43:08,330
was a 90-day program for a president

2435
01:43:13,419 --> 01:43:09,409
which I'm not going to say who it was

2436
01:43:16,959 --> 01:43:13,429
right at the moment but to do a study

2437
01:43:19,510 --> 01:43:16,969
and that there was eight people on the

2438
01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:19,520
team and when you look at the people on

2439
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:22,400
the team the first thing I saw was was

2440
01:43:26,020 --> 01:43:24,290
art Lendl's name and I said wow this

2441
01:43:27,250 --> 01:43:26,030
this has got to be for real because most

2442
01:43:28,810 --> 01:43:27,260
people don't know who he is and how

2443
01:43:30,250 --> 01:43:28,820
important he is that if you were gonna

2444
01:43:31,959 --> 01:43:30,260
do a team for the President of the

2445
01:43:33,609 --> 01:43:31,969
United States as to what's going on you

2446
01:43:35,890 --> 01:43:33,619
would have a hard land on the team so

2447
01:43:37,870 --> 01:43:35,900
what you do is you get a cross over from

2448
01:43:40,180 --> 01:43:37,880
the Tom DeLonge or that the bill more

2449
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:40,190
thing the same cross over so let's take

2450
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:43,130
a look at Tom DeLonge so you have art

2451
01:43:50,890 --> 01:43:48,010
Lundell well that will be Jim semi van

2452
01:43:53,589 --> 01:43:50,900
high-level CIA guy and then the other

2453
01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:53,599
guy that was on the team was Kelly

2454
01:43:58,300 --> 01:43:55,760
Johnson was on this this team for this

2455
01:44:00,280 --> 01:43:58,310
90-day eyes-only briefing for this

2456
01:44:01,990 --> 01:44:00,290
president well Kelly Johnson if you

2457
01:44:03,459 --> 01:44:02,000
remember the Tom DeLonge operation when

2458
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:03,469
this thing first started out and they

2459
01:44:07,209 --> 01:44:05,090
sent Tom DeLonge from airport to airport

2460
01:44:09,430 --> 01:44:07,219
the same as they did to Bill Moore he

2461
01:44:10,899 --> 01:44:09,440
gets in contact with Robert Weiss and

2462
01:44:12,580 --> 01:44:10,909
he's dealing with Robert Weiss at

2463
01:44:14,470 --> 01:44:12,590
Lockheed skunkworks the head of Lockheed

2464
01:44:16,930 --> 01:44:14,480
skunkworks on this other operation is

2465
01:44:19,149 --> 01:44:16,940
Kelly Johnson it's that same thing the

2466
01:44:22,629 --> 01:44:19,159
other one grave was this two brief

2467
01:44:24,370 --> 01:44:22,639
Kennedy no it's not Kennedy it's it's

2468
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:24,380
it's it's one that you wouldn't think of

2469
01:44:28,930 --> 01:44:26,530
but if you give me another week I will

2470
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:28,940
hopefully but if you hopefully mind I

2471
01:44:32,530 --> 01:44:30,080
want to make sure we get the rest of

2472
01:44:36,220 --> 01:44:32,540
these documents why do you do this to me

2473
01:44:42,669 --> 01:44:36,230
you do this to me constantly well I I

2474
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:42,679
will get these documents there's about

2475
01:44:46,839 --> 01:44:44,810
250 pages and what it is it's not

2476
01:44:49,149 --> 01:44:46,849
government documents it's a guy the guy

2477
01:44:53,109 --> 01:44:49,159
that ran the study right his guys name

2478
01:44:56,500 --> 01:44:53,119
was Rand Frank Rand ran the study and he

2479
01:44:57,910 --> 01:44:56,510
had these these these guys and at the

2480
01:44:59,290 --> 01:44:57,920
end he starts to write this book and

2481
01:45:02,620 --> 01:44:59,300
he's got all his notes he starts writing

2482
01:45:05,229 --> 01:45:02,630
the book and this is all 99 pages is

2483
01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:05,239
bits and pieces of this book and notes

2484
01:45:10,330 --> 01:45:07,760
and stuff like that that he had naming

2485
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:10,340
the people and stuff like that and he

2486
01:45:13,850 --> 01:45:11,370
dies

2487
01:45:15,830 --> 01:45:13,860
in the lounge I died last year it has to

2488
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:15,840
be Johnson Johnson's the president that

2489
01:45:24,980 --> 01:45:17,610
we've forgotten about most people don't

2490
01:45:28,970 --> 01:45:24,990
even know that he was president okay so

2491
01:45:31,730 --> 01:45:28,980
you got sure but you got you you got the

2492
01:45:33,230 --> 01:45:31,740
CI high-level CIA guy you got the guy

2493
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:33,240
from Lockheed skunkworks and the other

2494
01:45:37,190 --> 01:45:35,130
guy that's on this list is the guy that

2495
01:45:38,510 --> 01:45:37,200
had it's not exactly the same job but

2496
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:38,520
he's in general wright-patterson Air

2497
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:40,890
Force Base well that's general McCaslin

2498
01:45:45,530 --> 01:45:43,530
who joined up to tom delonge operation

2499
01:45:48,170 --> 01:45:45,540
so you get this thing from from like

2500
01:45:50,930 --> 01:45:48,180
four decades ago and it's the same story

2501
01:45:53,210 --> 01:45:50,940
it's the same group of people who get

2502
01:45:55,070 --> 01:45:53,220
together the head of the other guy it

2503
01:45:56,650 --> 01:45:55,080
was on there was what the second

2504
01:45:59,720 --> 01:45:56,660
director of the National Reconnaissance

2505
01:46:01,580 --> 01:45:59,730
Organization well most people don't know

2506
01:46:03,170 --> 01:46:01,590
that Tom DeLonge has a general in the

2507
01:46:05,900 --> 01:46:03,180
National Reconnaissance Organization

2508
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:05,910
it's that same story it's like they run

2509
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:07,440
this thing over and over again that

2510
01:46:10,910 --> 01:46:09,090
they're in these operations almost like

2511
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:10,920
you see the bill Moore's people are all

2512
01:46:14,420 --> 01:46:12,810
a lot of them are part of Tom DeLong's

2513
01:46:17,630 --> 01:46:14,430
operation they were part of nits they

2514
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:17,640
were private part of Jim James firma jiz

2515
01:46:21,170 --> 01:46:19,650
operation they just keep reappearing

2516
01:46:22,850 --> 01:46:21,180
because they're sitting there they're

2517
01:46:24,500 --> 01:46:22,860
there they're not you know guys who are

2518
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:24,510
trying to destroy the world they're guys

2519
01:46:28,970 --> 01:46:27,090
who had one point in their career got a

2520
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:28,980
sniff of the UFO thing like you and I

2521
01:46:32,030 --> 01:46:30,810
fell down the rabbit hole and are trying

2522
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:32,040
to figure this thing out and they're

2523
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:33,210
trying to use their intelligence

2524
01:46:36,110 --> 01:46:34,410
connections to figure out what's going

2525
01:46:37,700 --> 01:46:36,120
on so every time there's some money like

2526
01:46:39,050 --> 01:46:37,710
Bob Bigelow with knits and they're

2527
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:39,060
getting paid thousand dollars a day to

2528
01:46:43,130 --> 01:46:41,130
be consultants they say yeah right let's

2529
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:43,140
get in there and they they can get

2530
01:46:46,940 --> 01:46:45,210
information they can get money and and

2531
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:46,950
to Tom DeLonge because that's what

2532
01:46:50,210 --> 01:46:48,690
happened with Tom DeLonge if you look at

2533
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:50,220
helped put off what helped put off says

2534
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:52,080
is the reason that he joined the Tom

2535
01:46:56,690 --> 01:46:53,850
DeLonge operation is he got a phone call

2536
01:46:58,730 --> 01:46:56,700
from KITT green and KITT Green said Oh

2537
01:47:00,500 --> 01:46:58,740
Tom DeLonge he's sort of on the leading

2538
01:47:02,510 --> 01:47:00,510
edges of stuff you might want to check

2539
01:47:04,610 --> 01:47:02,520
him out and so it's like oh there's some

2540
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:04,620
information there's some an operation

2541
01:47:08,710 --> 01:47:06,480
going on here and they all just find out

2542
01:47:11,510 --> 01:47:08,720
where's the operation going on right now

2543
01:47:13,310 --> 01:47:11,520
in the 1980s it was Bill Moore was the

2544
01:47:15,010 --> 01:47:13,320
name of the game he was the guy that was

2545
01:47:17,540 --> 01:47:15,020
on the inside that was talking to

2546
01:47:20,570 --> 01:47:17,550
supposedly talking to Kissinger talking

2547
01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:20,580
to gates and talking to Richard Helms

2548
01:47:24,590 --> 01:47:22,860
had all these high-level guys and so of

2549
01:47:25,220 --> 01:47:24,600
course you want to get in on that circle

2550
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:25,230
and find out what you

2551
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:27,930
and today that the new bill more the new

2552
01:47:31,729 --> 01:47:30,090
in guy who has the money

2553
01:47:33,350 --> 01:47:31,739
who has the connections inside the

2554
01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:33,360
government who has been contacted by the

2555
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:36,480
government is is Tom DeLonge and that's

2556
01:47:40,130 --> 01:47:38,250
why kid green joined the organization

2557
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:40,140
and that's when Jim semi van said he

2558
01:47:43,610 --> 01:47:41,370
learned about kid green from a

2559
01:47:47,470 --> 01:47:43,620
high-level CIA guy that's got to be

2560
01:47:50,420 --> 01:47:47,480
kidding and then he went in April of 19

2561
01:47:51,890 --> 01:47:50,430
2016 and said oh I hear you're you're

2562
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:51,900
talking to these generals what's going

2563
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:53,850
on I'd like to help you that's exactly

2564
01:47:57,410 --> 01:47:54,960
what said to Bill Moore I'm here to help

2565
01:47:58,940 --> 01:47:57,420
you and they get in and they want to

2566
01:48:01,040 --> 01:47:58,950
move the story so that's why I call it

2567
01:48:02,900 --> 01:48:01,050
managing magic there's this story this

2568
01:48:04,370 --> 01:48:02,910
UFO story and sooner or later you got to

2569
01:48:06,380 --> 01:48:04,380
get this story out and what they're

2570
01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:06,390
trying to do as melinda Leslie said

2571
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:07,920
you're spinning the story you're

2572
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:09,810
managing the story you're keeping it

2573
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:11,610
away from classified material and you're

2574
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:12,930
getting it to go in the direction you

2575
01:48:17,330 --> 01:48:15,570
want it to go slowly because you know

2576
01:48:21,380 --> 01:48:17,340
eventually you have to tell this story

2577
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:21,390
well and and it's all great and and

2578
01:48:25,970 --> 01:48:23,850
laying it out that way it makes a lot of

2579
01:48:28,190 --> 01:48:25,980
sense and I and I appreciate that

2580
01:48:30,530 --> 01:48:28,200
but then when I when I kind of push that

2581
01:48:32,690 --> 01:48:30,540
to the side these are the questions that

2582
01:48:35,090 --> 01:48:32,700
I ask myself I'm gonna ask you right now

2583
01:48:37,850 --> 01:48:35,100
when it comes to semi van when it comes

2584
01:48:41,450 --> 01:48:37,860
to justice when it comes to melon when

2585
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:41,460
it comes to put off and KITT green that

2586
01:48:47,540 --> 01:48:44,130
top list of guys you notice who I left

2587
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:47,550
out I left out Elizondo now out of those

2588
01:48:54,530 --> 01:48:52,489
guys on that list have they ever seen

2589
01:48:57,710 --> 01:48:54,540
something at area 51

2590
01:49:01,580 --> 01:48:57,720
do they have official contact with et

2591
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:01,590
have they been briefed and have been

2592
01:49:08,260 --> 01:49:04,410
shown the proof of et's existence or are

2593
01:49:10,580 --> 01:49:08,270
they ufologist number one number two has

2594
01:49:14,990 --> 01:49:10,590
Elizondo which he's avoided this

2595
01:49:20,180 --> 01:49:15,000
question like the plague has he seen

2596
01:49:23,660 --> 01:49:20,190
real stuff it has he been privy to this

2597
01:49:25,490 --> 01:49:23,670
or is his position that he's just a

2598
01:49:27,470 --> 01:49:25,500
ufologist walking the halls of the

2599
01:49:30,050 --> 01:49:27,480
Pentagon trying to figure this out too

2600
01:49:33,740 --> 01:49:30,060
that's the question I want to know if

2601
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:33,750
these guys at T TSA are in possession of

2602
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:36,970
the goods that's it

2603
01:49:40,260 --> 01:49:39,130
I'm not well I'm not sure depends who

2604
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:40,270
you're talking about let me let me give

2605
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:42,610
you a couple of the list though so out

2606
01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:45,250
of that let's pull a Elizondo off to the

2607
01:49:49,950 --> 01:49:47,470
side but they all said he'd never read a

2608
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:49,960
UFO book he just got pulled in in 2008

2609
01:49:54,780 --> 01:49:52,210
got dragged into this program and never

2610
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:54,790
read a UFO book to keep himself and when

2611
01:49:58,440 --> 01:49:56,290
he gets asked those questions he said I

2612
01:49:59,940 --> 01:49:58,450
still have a security clearance the same

2613
01:50:02,520 --> 01:49:59,950
as he'll put off says he'll turn up

2614
01:50:05,310 --> 01:50:02,530
without those exactly back to my point I

2615
01:50:07,890 --> 01:50:05,320
don't believe those words for a second

2616
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:07,900
what's that they're gonna know that he

2617
01:50:12,780 --> 01:50:10,210
has he hasn't read EU a full book he

2618
01:50:23,190 --> 01:50:12,790
knows nothing you know he didn't do that

2619
01:50:25,620 --> 01:50:23,200
until two that it's that let's go to

2620
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:25,630
help put off right okay love hell yeah

2621
01:50:31,590 --> 01:50:28,570
office ass bye-bye George George Knapp

2622
01:50:34,980 --> 01:50:31,600
he said do we have crashes have there

2623
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:34,990
been crashes and there is a 10-second

2624
01:50:38,730 --> 01:50:36,970
pause and then George says even during

2625
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:38,740
the pause he says well I guess that's an

2626
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:41,250
answer or and then he'll says well

2627
01:50:48,030 --> 01:50:44,890
there's a UFO document that describes

2628
01:50:51,750 --> 01:50:48,040
crashes that's legitimate I don't know

2629
01:50:53,940 --> 01:50:51,760
how it got out and and so he basically

2630
01:50:55,590 --> 01:50:53,950
confirms there was a high-level document

2631
01:50:58,410 --> 01:50:55,600
that he's confirmed that deals with

2632
01:51:00,480 --> 01:50:58,420
crashes that that that is out there so

2633
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:00,490
there are crashes and when he's asked

2634
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:02,290
about crash material he said I think

2635
01:51:05,910 --> 01:51:04,690
that's that kind of material is going to

2636
01:51:07,290 --> 01:51:05,920
be very highly classified

2637
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:07,300
that's exactly right he may not have

2638
01:51:10,770 --> 01:51:09,250
access to that then that kind of

2639
01:51:12,810 --> 01:51:10,780
material will give you KITT Green you

2640
01:51:14,610 --> 01:51:12,820
mentioned KITT green yeah I know from

2641
01:51:17,250 --> 01:51:14,620
many years ago KITT green I was told the

2642
01:51:19,530 --> 01:51:17,260
story Keith Green is a physiologist so

2643
01:51:21,330 --> 01:51:19,540
he's a doctor type guy and I heard that

2644
01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:21,340
he knew a lot of stuff because he was

2645
01:51:25,110 --> 01:51:23,920
the the weird desk guy at the CIA and he

2646
01:51:26,850 --> 01:51:25,120
knew a lot of stuff he was the guy that

2647
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:26,860
briefs the president on UFOs and stuff

2648
01:51:31,290 --> 01:51:28,960
like that but he could never get read in

2649
01:51:32,940 --> 01:51:31,300
on alien autopsies but he was trying to

2650
01:51:35,070 --> 01:51:32,950
get read in because he's physiologist

2651
01:51:36,570 --> 01:51:35,080
when they wouldn't eat them in and so

2652
01:51:38,430 --> 01:51:36,580
that's the way I look at these guys is

2653
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:38,440
they're trying to figure this thing out

2654
01:51:41,370 --> 01:51:39,610
for themselves they're trying to figure

2655
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:41,380
out all this kind of stuff the same as

2656
01:51:45,780 --> 01:51:43,330
KITT green tells the story about going

2657
01:51:47,430 --> 01:51:45,790
with with Helms this very secret meeting

2658
01:51:48,990 --> 01:51:47,440
I don't remember the story very secret

2659
01:51:50,460 --> 01:51:49,000
meeting with with Richard Helms there's

2660
01:51:50,850 --> 01:51:50,470
three people he's supposed to give this

2661
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:50,860
code

2662
01:51:54,030 --> 01:51:52,480
word and this is kid green town the stir

2663
01:51:56,250 --> 01:51:54,040
kid it's not Richard Doty telling the

2664
01:51:59,070 --> 01:51:56,260
story and that's when when when he

2665
01:52:00,810 --> 01:51:59,080
basically says it Helms is basically

2666
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:00,820
saying believe everything Richard Doty

2667
01:52:07,050 --> 01:52:04,090
tells you on UFOs and then when when the

2668
01:52:08,580 --> 01:52:07,060
they'd take a rap on Richard Doty then

2669
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:08,590
suddenly kick Greene says that Helms

2670
01:52:11,490 --> 01:52:10,090
won't talk to him again II would never

2671
01:52:13,470 --> 01:52:11,500
ever talks to me again in his in his

2672
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:13,480
life so you see these things where these

2673
01:52:16,590 --> 01:52:14,770
guys are actually trying to figure it

2674
01:52:19,050 --> 01:52:16,600
out the same as hell there's the core

2675
01:52:21,060 --> 01:52:19,060
story the core story is that there have

2676
01:52:22,590 --> 01:52:21,070
been crashes we're not getting very far

2677
01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:22,600
and that's what this study shows that

2678
01:52:26,580 --> 01:52:24,880
this study that I'm I'm working on right

2679
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:26,590
now shows that we haven't really gotten

2680
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:28,000
as far as a lot of people are saying

2681
01:52:32,399 --> 01:52:30,010
we're getting so you have the core story

2682
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:32,409
you have hell put off jacques valet and

2683
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:36,489
and he'll put off jacques valet and kick

2684
01:52:40,770 --> 01:52:38,170
Greene sit down at a Denny's restaurant

2685
01:52:42,990 --> 01:52:40,780
in 1987 and they come up with the core

2686
01:52:44,910 --> 01:52:43,000
story what are the things we know for

2687
01:52:47,310 --> 01:52:44,920
sure and whether they come out is that

2688
01:52:50,939 --> 01:52:47,320
there there there is there was an ET

2689
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:50,949
there is there was a crashes we're not

2690
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:54,730
doing very well and that that's the core

2691
01:52:58,080 --> 01:52:56,320
story the rest of it we really don't

2692
01:52:59,790 --> 01:52:58,090
know and that became this this sort of

2693
01:53:01,229 --> 01:52:59,800
idea of the core story so you see these

2694
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:01,239
guys meeting together and trying to

2695
01:53:04,140 --> 01:53:02,290
figure it out themselves

2696
01:53:06,209 --> 01:53:04,150
and I don't think so it's it's a client

2697
01:53:08,010 --> 01:53:06,219
it's a compartmentalized thing so just

2698
01:53:09,060 --> 01:53:08,020
because you're at some level doesn't

2699
01:53:10,620 --> 01:53:09,070
mean you know everything you know a

2700
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:10,630
little a little bit you know this part

2701
01:53:13,500 --> 01:53:12,250
you know that part and you're there

2702
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:13,510
trying to figure it out as well that's

2703
01:53:16,290 --> 01:53:15,489
why they're in the game the hell put up

2704
01:53:18,959 --> 01:53:16,300
doesn't need the money

2705
01:53:20,129 --> 01:53:18,969
he's like 80 some years old they're in

2706
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:20,139
this thing for the game they're trying

2707
01:53:23,370 --> 01:53:21,280
to figure this thing out they're trained

2708
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:23,380
it's like new and I like why did I not

2709
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:25,210
quit I'm innocent forty-three years and

2710
01:53:29,340 --> 01:53:27,130
I said I'm dying to get out of this

2711
01:53:30,750 --> 01:53:29,350
story I hate this story and yet you keep

2712
01:53:34,140 --> 01:53:30,760
getting dragged in because you want to

2713
01:53:35,370 --> 01:53:34,150
figure it out you know yeah and I think

2714
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:35,380
it's this thing with all these guys and

2715
01:53:38,430 --> 01:53:36,850
I've met a lot of these people and

2716
01:53:40,410 --> 01:53:38,440
that's the way it comes down to me is

2717
01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:40,420
that they are just they are down the

2718
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:42,159
rabbit hole just the same as you and I

2719
01:53:47,430 --> 01:53:44,530
trying to figure this thing out and who

2720
01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:47,440
knows the story whether whoever's got

2721
01:53:49,890 --> 01:53:48,639
the story it is very very

2722
01:53:51,930 --> 01:53:49,900
compartmentalized that's what the

2723
01:53:53,490 --> 01:53:51,940
Canadian government said in 1950 in a

2724
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:53,500
top-secret memo it's the most highly

2725
01:53:57,990 --> 01:53:56,050
compartmentalized the highly most highly

2726
01:54:00,500 --> 01:53:58,000
classified subject in the United States

2727
01:54:02,100 --> 01:54:00,510
this and and these people through

2728
01:54:03,810 --> 01:54:02,110
compartmentalization will only know

2729
01:54:04,860 --> 01:54:03,820
little bits and pieces and they've

2730
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:04,870
joined up to

2731
01:54:09,540 --> 01:54:07,090
try to interact with others to figure

2732
01:54:12,480 --> 01:54:09,550
out more this story and and I know it

2733
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:12,490
okay so this is and when we come back

2734
01:54:18,330 --> 01:54:15,570
I'm gonna talk I want to talk about the

2735
01:54:20,070 --> 01:54:18,340
this warehouse out in Las Vegas this

2736
01:54:26,460 --> 01:54:20,080
Bigelow warehouse but before we get

2737
01:54:31,110 --> 01:54:26,470
there what what have we learned since

2738
01:54:36,410 --> 01:54:31,120
December 16th that is new that we didn't

2739
01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:36,420
know before Stephen Hawking has died

2740
01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:39,760
okay breaking news Stephen Hawking

2741
01:54:47,370 --> 01:54:45,520
everybody has died at the age of 76 it

2742
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:47,380
is just breaking here it is coming

2743
01:54:53,010 --> 01:54:50,770
across the wire sorry to put a damper on

2744
01:54:59,910 --> 01:54:53,020
the show tonight Stephen Hawking has

2745
01:55:01,550 --> 01:54:59,920
passed at the age of 76 okay I'll get

2746
01:55:04,410 --> 01:55:01,560
I'll get some more information on this

2747
01:55:07,590 --> 01:55:04,420
during the top of the hour Stephen

2748
01:55:09,780 --> 01:55:07,600
Hawking passed away today March 13th at

2749
01:55:12,420 --> 01:55:09,790
the age of 76

2750
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:12,430
okay back to where we were sorry about

2751
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:15,090
that grant well what have we learned

2752
01:55:21,540 --> 01:55:19,690
that is new aside from not only the

2753
01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:21,550
Pentagon program which we don't need to

2754
01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:24,190
know the official name of it but aside

2755
01:55:31,410 --> 01:55:27,520
from that what have we learned that is

2756
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:31,420
new since December 16th my answer is

2757
01:55:36,450 --> 01:55:33,730
nothing you know I don't have anything

2758
01:55:38,850 --> 01:55:36,460
breaking to add to the to the puzzle

2759
01:55:41,460 --> 01:55:38,860
that I didn't know before December 16th

2760
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:41,470
what for you what have we learned that

2761
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:43,810
is new here or are they doing what

2762
01:55:48,470 --> 01:55:45,730
you're suggesting here and just

2763
01:55:50,490 --> 01:55:48,480
regurgitating and recycling the story

2764
01:55:52,500 --> 01:55:50,500
they're just doing the first part of the

2765
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:52,510
story they're just doing the UFOs are

2766
01:55:59,520 --> 01:55:55,650
are real type thing

2767
01:56:02,130 --> 01:55:59,530
there's no the idea of aliens or where

2768
01:56:06,210 --> 01:56:02,140
they're from or crashes is years down

2769
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:06,220
the road so I think intentionally they

2770
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:09,760
have you know just dripping this thing

2771
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:12,010
out bit by bit right just putting more

2772
01:56:17,390 --> 01:56:15,280
stories into the into the media I can't

2773
01:56:19,610 --> 01:56:17,400
even think of anything

2774
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:19,620
I heard this story about the 60 minute

2775
01:56:24,830 --> 01:56:20,970
thing whether that's going to come off

2776
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:24,840
or not that came after the same thing

2777
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:26,010
that I heard before

2778
01:56:31,820 --> 01:56:29,730
it's a 16th you know they were about to

2779
01:56:33,770 --> 01:56:31,830
drop this thing there's more there's big

2780
01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:33,780
stuff almost what the the message you

2781
01:56:39,110 --> 01:56:36,000
got from from Tom DeLonge most of the

2782
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:39,120
people in in that that that I use for

2783
01:56:43,370 --> 01:56:41,010
sources that sort of know what's going

2784
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:43,380
on who are sort of nutty insiders yeah

2785
01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:45,810
insiders and sort about insiders are all

2786
01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:48,000
saying the same thing that there's a lot

2787
01:56:55,700 --> 01:56:51,330
more to come that this thing is just

2788
01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:55,710
starting but in in terms of the thing

2789
01:56:58,430 --> 01:56:57,090
it's just a climatization that's what

2790
01:57:00,680 --> 01:56:58,440
they were basically doing I mean that's

2791
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:00,690
what I learned from the sixteenth I

2792
01:57:03,410 --> 01:57:02,130
thought it was like a disclosure thing I

2793
01:57:05,930 --> 01:57:03,420
thought it was gonna you know sort of

2794
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:05,940
really ramped up and suddenly I realized

2795
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:08,490
this thing that no it's like almost like

2796
01:57:13,070 --> 01:57:10,170
with dr. Eric Walker told us in the

2797
01:57:15,500 --> 01:57:13,080
1990s why should we change the rules to

2798
01:57:17,270 --> 01:57:15,510
satisfy your curiosity they could care

2799
01:57:18,860 --> 01:57:17,280
less what we think about this thing

2800
01:57:21,140 --> 01:57:18,870
they're they're running their little

2801
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:21,150
operation and they really don't care

2802
01:57:24,830 --> 01:57:23,010
what you think or I think or who's

2803
01:57:27,410 --> 01:57:24,840
fighting in the UFO community they see

2804
01:57:29,090 --> 01:57:27,420
us as a bunch of nut cases that are just

2805
01:57:30,860 --> 01:57:29,100
going to get in the way we had our

2806
01:57:32,900 --> 01:57:30,870
chance to bring out the story we didn't

2807
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:32,910
bring out the story and now they're

2808
01:57:37,460 --> 01:57:34,850
gonna do it their way

2809
01:57:39,770 --> 01:57:37,470
unbelievable I you know and the other

2810
01:57:42,950 --> 01:57:39,780
part I want to talk about this when we

2811
01:57:45,380 --> 01:57:42,960
come back this warehouse out there and I

2812
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:45,390
want you to think about this during a

2813
01:57:53,390 --> 01:57:49,440
break but my question is a very basic

2814
01:57:57,020 --> 01:57:53,400
and simple one is the debris that they

2815
01:58:00,620 --> 01:57:57,030
have is it from a crashed craft that was

2816
01:58:02,750 --> 01:58:00,630
retrieved the the material by the

2817
01:58:06,020 --> 01:58:02,760
government and given to Bigelow out

2818
01:58:08,510 --> 01:58:06,030
there to study or is it from civilians

2819
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:08,520
and its trace evidence collected at the

2820
01:58:16,250 --> 01:58:14,010
scene I think that is paramount here you

2821
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:16,260
know paramount is this is this from a

2822
01:58:22,700 --> 01:58:20,130
Bob Lazar craft right or is it something

2823
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:22,710
else that is just anomalous and that was

2824
01:58:28,580 --> 01:58:25,730
collected somewhere that's that's what I

2825
01:58:30,110 --> 01:58:28,590
what is it before you claim that it is

2826
01:58:33,340 --> 01:58:30,120
alien I'm talking

2827
01:58:37,010 --> 01:58:33,350
about you know Bigelow or to the stars

2828
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:37,020
where is the provenance where is the

2829
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:39,650
chain of custody where did it come from

2830
01:58:46,340 --> 01:58:42,810
that that's that's all I want to know if

2831
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:46,350
that and that's that I think that no no

2832
01:58:50,750 --> 01:58:48,090
no we have we have to take a break right

2833
01:58:54,610 --> 01:58:50,760
here and I want to remind everybody that

2834
01:58:58,640 --> 01:58:54,620
in three minutes the countdown starts on

2835
01:59:01,520 --> 01:58:58,650
stellar will launch in 3 minutes 9 p.m.

2836
01:59:03,590 --> 01:59:01,530
here on the Pacific coast and midnight

2837
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:03,600
on the East Coast you will be able to go

2838
01:59:09,740 --> 01:59:06,570
and register use the promo code Ginny ji

2839
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:09,750
mm why when you register go and reserve

2840
01:59:15,890 --> 01:59:12,210
your screen name now for this exciting

2841
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:15,900
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2842
01:59:21,710 --> 01:59:19,050
and I'm gonna talk to grant after the

2843
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:21,720
show tonight about on stellar because I

2844
01:59:28,370 --> 01:59:24,570
think tomorrow grant is gonna be right

2845
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:28,380
there with us without stellar and so I'm

2846
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:31,410
gonna take a break right here this the

2847
01:59:37,370 --> 01:59:34,010
Stephen Hawking thing really bums me out

2848
01:59:41,090 --> 01:59:37,380
I don't know if you ever had the chance

2849
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:41,100
to meet uh Stephen grant but I did and

2850
01:59:45,980 --> 01:59:43,650
I've got I've got some really cool

2851
01:59:48,950 --> 01:59:45,990
pictures that I took this is about ten

2852
01:59:50,810 --> 01:59:48,960
years ago and I'm gonna go peel those

2853
01:59:53,510 --> 01:59:50,820
off a cell phone I never thought that

2854
01:59:54,950 --> 01:59:53,520
this day would would come where I would

2855
01:59:57,140 --> 01:59:54,960
have to go and pull these out and take a

2856
01:59:59,180 --> 01:59:57,150
look at them again you think everybody's

2857
02:00:02,150 --> 01:59:59,190
gonna live forever right that's just the

2858
02:00:06,860 --> 02:00:02,160
way it goes very bummed about this but

2859
02:00:09,380 --> 02:00:06,870
yes Stephen Hawking passed away a little

2860
02:00:10,790 --> 02:00:09,390
earlier this evening and I'm gonna take

2861
02:00:13,010 --> 02:00:10,800
a break right now we'll be right back

2862
02:00:16,010 --> 02:00:13,020
continue this discussion with the one

2863
02:00:17,330 --> 02:00:16,020
and only grant Cameron and as promised

2864
02:00:18,890 --> 02:00:17,340
when we come back I want to talk about

2865
02:00:20,660 --> 02:00:18,900
this warehouse I want to know really

2866
02:00:24,110 --> 02:00:20,670
what's going on out there

2867
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:24,120
fade to black I'm arrows Jimmy Church go

2868
02:00:33,690 --> 02:00:26,610
register - I'm stellar in two minutes

2869
02:00:46,689 --> 02:00:39,299
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2870
02:00:49,479 --> 02:00:46,699
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2871
02:00:54,189 --> 02:00:49,489
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2872
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:54,199
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2873
02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:56,690
let's get this man to the ER stat right

2874
02:01:01,540 --> 02:00:58,880
away doctor we see this every day heart

2875
02:01:03,939 --> 02:01:01,550
attack or angina pain due to blocked and

2876
02:01:06,250 --> 02:01:03,949
clogged arteries chelation can remove

2877
02:01:07,990 --> 02:01:06,260
obstructions or blockages from arteries

2878
02:01:08,979 --> 02:01:08,000
and help avoid painful and expensive

2879
02:01:11,529 --> 02:01:08,989
surgery

2880
02:01:13,180 --> 02:01:11,539
now there's angiogram it's a liquid oral

2881
02:01:15,580 --> 02:01:13,190
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2882
02:01:17,919 --> 02:01:15,590
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2883
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2884
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2885
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2886
02:01:26,290 --> 02:01:24,349
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2887
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research has gone into chelation and

2888
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:29,480
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2889
02:01:33,879 --> 02:01:31,730
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2890
02:01:35,770 --> 02:01:33,889
from build-up that slow circulation

2891
02:01:36,759 --> 02:01:35,780
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2892
02:01:38,740 --> 02:01:36,769
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2893
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all right welcome back

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fade to black our guest tonight the one

2953
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and only I say it often about grant but

2954
02:05:08,450 --> 02:05:03,480
I don't say it about anybody else and I

2955
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:08,460
think all of you know that all right I'm

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you'll get yourself an autograph fade to

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black t-shirt hey grant do you have a

2966
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:39,720
fade to black t-shirt no I don't why not

2967
02:05:42,310 --> 02:05:40,130
[Music]

2968
02:05:45,050 --> 02:05:42,320
[Laughter]

2969
02:05:48,500 --> 02:05:45,060
make any sense to me how could you not

2970
02:05:50,090 --> 02:05:48,510
have a fade to black t-shirt I'll get

2971
02:05:53,930 --> 02:05:50,100
one in Los Angeles you're gonna have

2972
02:05:57,980 --> 02:05:53,940
somebody there yeah I will take care of

2973
02:06:00,200 --> 02:05:57,990
it what sighs let's go with large and I

2974
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:00,210
will take a picture and you can well I'm

2975
02:06:05,120 --> 02:06:01,770
gonna be live by the way I'm gonna be

2976
02:06:06,290 --> 02:06:05,130
live on the air that night so but I'm

2977
02:06:09,410 --> 02:06:06,300
saying I'll take picture with somebody

2978
02:06:12,050 --> 02:06:09,420
oh oh yeah now that would be cool just

2979
02:06:16,010 --> 02:06:12,060
to prove that I that I've got yeah you

2980
02:06:19,100 --> 02:06:16,020
know I have got you and I and I don't

2981
02:06:20,810 --> 02:06:19,110
even know if you remember this I think

2982
02:06:22,850 --> 02:06:20,820
it was about five years ago you were

2983
02:06:24,830 --> 02:06:22,860
speaking here in Los Angeles yeah and

2984
02:06:26,270 --> 02:06:24,840
you and I got a chance to hang out that

2985
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:26,280
night it was one of the coolest nights

2986
02:06:31,550 --> 02:06:28,290
ever and you know we only took one

2987
02:06:33,380 --> 02:06:31,560
picture that night but but I have it's

2988
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:33,390
like one of my prized possessions man

2989
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:36,330
that's right so yeah you're gonna be

2990
02:06:40,790 --> 02:06:38,010
here next week next Tuesday and

2991
02:06:44,300 --> 02:06:40,800
Wednesday at you pars and of course

2992
02:06:45,860 --> 02:06:44,310
mufon Orange County and both of those

2993
02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:45,870
events are gonna sellouts gonna be

2994
02:06:50,450 --> 02:06:47,490
standing room only because it is Grant

2995
02:06:52,510 --> 02:06:50,460
and he's coming into town but I wish I

2996
02:06:54,830 --> 02:06:52,520
could be there this is the thing grant

2997
02:06:56,750 --> 02:06:54,840
especially with you pars and mufon

2998
02:06:59,180 --> 02:06:56,760
Orange County they do their events on

2999
02:07:00,950 --> 02:06:59,190
Tuesday and Wednesday night I'm on the

3000
02:07:02,700 --> 02:07:00,960
air every night if they did it on a

3001
02:07:07,620 --> 02:07:02,710
Saturday or Sunday I could

3002
02:07:09,390 --> 02:07:07,630
go I have missed years of really great

3003
02:07:11,100 --> 02:07:09,400
people speaking at both of those events

3004
02:07:13,020 --> 02:07:11,110
because I'm always on the air everybody

3005
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:13,030
else gets to have fun I'm stuck here in

3006
02:07:17,430 --> 02:07:15,850
the bunker you know to in shows every

3007
02:07:19,770 --> 02:07:17,440
night I don't get to do the fun stuff

3008
02:07:20,940 --> 02:07:19,780
well you've got the more power do they

3009
02:07:22,650 --> 02:07:20,950
tape these because that's what I always

3010
02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:22,660
found disappointing in the UFO community

3011
02:07:26,550 --> 02:07:25,030
is you work on a lecture and then you go

3012
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:26,560
to a conference and there's like 75

3013
02:07:30,810 --> 02:07:28,330
people and you go like I worked on two

3014
02:07:32,610 --> 02:07:30,820
months two months for 75 people for you

3015
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:32,620
know with with if you got a radio show

3016
02:07:36,180 --> 02:07:34,690
or YouTube channel or something I mean

3017
02:07:38,220 --> 02:07:36,190
sometimes you look at it and you're

3018
02:07:42,330 --> 02:07:38,230
talking to its stadiums full of people

3019
02:07:46,170 --> 02:07:42,340
right yeah yeah that you know you bring

3020
02:07:49,110 --> 02:07:46,180
up a really good point our audience here

3021
02:07:50,940 --> 02:07:49,120
it's frigging large there's no doubt

3022
02:07:53,580 --> 02:07:50,950
about that and you know and you throw

3023
02:07:55,770 --> 02:07:53,590
and coast to coast and suddenly in a

3024
02:07:58,979 --> 02:07:55,780
week I could be speaking literally to

3025
02:08:01,979 --> 02:07:58,989
millions of people but you on the other

3026
02:08:06,690 --> 02:08:01,989
hand you are able to go out there one on

3027
02:08:08,729 --> 02:08:06,700
one with an audience which I enjoy that

3028
02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:08,739
so much more you're gonna have at you

3029
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:10,000
parts you're gonna have a couple hundred

3030
02:08:14,100 --> 02:08:11,530
people there right standing-room-only

3031
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:14,110
same thing MUFON Orange County is really

3032
02:08:19,260 --> 02:08:17,050
good plus your grant Cameron but I when

3033
02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:19,270
you did when you spoke out here five

3034
02:08:23,430 --> 02:08:21,130
years ago that was a packed house man

3035
02:08:26,190 --> 02:08:23,440
that was uh that was a really really

3036
02:08:28,590 --> 02:08:26,200
good presentation and I remember that's

3037
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:28,600
right yeah that's right it was Yvonne

3038
02:08:32,850 --> 02:08:30,370
Smith yeah it was about Smith and you

3039
02:08:37,350 --> 02:08:32,860
spoke about and you had you had

3040
02:08:39,180 --> 02:08:37,360
everybody riveted you had somebody just

3041
02:08:42,810 --> 02:08:39,190
posted where's my fade to black t-shirt

3042
02:08:46,590 --> 02:08:42,820
in Twitter you spoke about rock stars

3043
02:08:49,740 --> 02:08:46,600
and music and UFOs and and contact in

3044
02:08:51,180 --> 02:08:49,750
lyrics and it was it was awesome man

3045
02:08:53,310 --> 02:08:51,190
that was a that was a really good

3046
02:08:54,840 --> 02:08:53,320
presentation that book has just released

3047
02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:54,850
yesterday we finally released the book

3048
02:08:58,350 --> 02:08:56,290
it's been that's all I'm saying I've

3049
02:09:00,780 --> 02:08:58,360
just I can't get anything done I'm just

3050
02:09:02,430 --> 02:09:00,790
this story just sort of you know I keep

3051
02:09:04,260 --> 02:09:02,440
watching these hundred people and what's

3052
02:09:06,420 --> 02:09:04,270
going on and we finally got the book and

3053
02:09:07,950 --> 02:09:06,430
then the girl who put it up for me

3054
02:09:09,450 --> 02:09:07,960
she said well do you want to do the

3055
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:09,460
press release and whatever I said no no

3056
02:09:12,570 --> 02:09:11,050
wait till I get back in California I

3057
02:09:14,970 --> 02:09:12,580
just haven't got time to do interviews

3058
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:14,980
now on on rock music I'm not in the I

3059
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:15,520
almost

3060
02:09:18,780 --> 02:09:17,290
have to reread the book because it's

3061
02:09:20,220 --> 02:09:18,790
been like two years since that book was

3062
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:20,230
finished and it finally was released

3063
02:09:24,750 --> 02:09:22,450
yesterday so that the whole book on how

3064
02:09:27,090 --> 02:09:24,760
many you know musicians have been

3065
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:27,100
abducted and and how many had UFO

3066
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:28,810
sightings over their concerts and all

3067
02:09:33,570 --> 02:09:31,810
this kind of stuff you know it took two

3068
02:09:35,220 --> 02:09:33,580
years to get out but it's finally oh so

3069
02:09:36,990 --> 02:09:35,230
now that was and now you got to write a

3070
02:09:39,150 --> 02:09:37,000
Tom DeLonge addendum

3071
02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:39,160
well yeah I'm halfway through that I

3072
02:09:44,310 --> 02:09:41,440
I've done a lot I've done maybe about

3073
02:09:46,230 --> 02:09:44,320
eight hours of updates and I have a lot

3074
02:09:47,970 --> 02:09:46,240
of people inside that are sort of doing

3075
02:09:49,740 --> 02:09:47,980
this sort of stuff and I'm sort of

3076
02:09:51,900 --> 02:09:49,750
betting the fact that they are going to

3077
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:51,910
actually sell the farm here I mean they

3078
02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:53,050
are going they're going to pull this

3079
02:09:58,650 --> 02:09:55,570
thing off so I'm just betting on that

3080
02:09:59,730 --> 02:09:58,660
and just recording everything as it as

3081
02:10:01,470 --> 02:09:59,740
it takes place and when you start

3082
02:10:03,060 --> 02:10:01,480
looking there's a lot of interviews a

3083
02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:03,070
lot of stuff is happening a lot of

3084
02:10:06,990 --> 02:10:05,410
people are talking so we'll see where it

3085
02:10:08,580 --> 02:10:07,000
goes but I've got and the other one I'm

3086
02:10:11,070 --> 02:10:08,590
doing is the I know I'm gonna have to do

3087
02:10:13,110 --> 02:10:11,080
the book on the on this presidential

3088
02:10:15,630 --> 02:10:13,120
briefing thing and we're coming out with

3089
02:10:17,820 --> 02:10:15,640
a book on Barry Goldwater's files I

3090
02:10:19,530 --> 02:10:17,830
found those a couple of years ago he

3091
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:19,540
correspond with a lot of people on UFO

3092
02:10:23,490 --> 02:10:21,760
stuff so and he's a senator now you have

3093
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:23,500
this whole thing with Harry Reid who I

3094
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:25,090
will tell you was briefed he had a

3095
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:28,450
classified briefing on UFOs and so now

3096
02:10:33,300 --> 02:10:31,210
you have we're gonna bring that that

3097
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:33,310
book out and there's just so much

3098
02:10:38,970 --> 02:10:36,370
material it's it's just there's no time

3099
02:10:40,350 --> 02:10:38,980
to do anything it's sort of like I never

3100
02:10:41,730 --> 02:10:40,360
would have believed it would get like

3101
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:41,740
this I thought I'd I get into

3102
02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:42,970
consciousness because you know that's my

3103
02:10:46,830 --> 02:10:45,370
main field right you know the the whole

3104
02:10:48,780 --> 02:10:46,840
thing with you know they fly the flying

3105
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:48,790
saucer with consciousness and and that's

3106
02:10:53,190 --> 02:10:50,560
what the world is all about and stuff

3107
02:10:55,410 --> 02:10:53,200
and I haven't done that for so long it's

3108
02:10:56,790 --> 02:10:55,420
just because you just can't leave this

3109
02:10:58,950 --> 02:10:56,800
story alone it's just so much material

3110
02:11:01,110 --> 02:10:58,960
happening that in my life has sort of

3111
02:11:04,110 --> 02:11:01,120
been taken over and now what do you

3112
02:11:06,690 --> 02:11:04,120
think about this warehouse know again my

3113
02:11:07,380 --> 02:11:06,700
opinion does not matter my opinion

3114
02:11:10,950 --> 02:11:07,390
doesn't matter

3115
02:11:13,110 --> 02:11:10,960
but my questions I think matter and need

3116
02:11:16,500 --> 02:11:13,120
to be answered what do you think they're

3117
02:11:18,180 --> 02:11:16,510
in possession of okay well I'll talk

3118
02:11:21,210 --> 02:11:18,190
about what I know about metals I I would

3119
02:11:22,770 --> 02:11:21,220
say that the the buildings is really got

3120
02:11:24,300 --> 02:11:22,780
nothing to do with warehouses it's got

3121
02:11:26,250 --> 02:11:24,310
to do with creating a secure facility

3122
02:11:27,989 --> 02:11:26,260
that if you're going to handle

3123
02:11:30,629 --> 02:11:27,999
top-secret

3124
02:11:32,609 --> 02:11:30,639
crash material or whatever you need ask

3125
02:11:34,259 --> 02:11:32,619
if and if in the interview that you did

3126
02:11:36,029 --> 02:11:34,269
but Tom DeLonge he talks about being in

3127
02:11:38,580 --> 02:11:36,039
the skiff with the you know with the

3128
02:11:41,489 --> 02:11:38,590
white noise right and the seals and and

3129
02:11:43,169 --> 02:11:41,499
all the tumblers and the the vaults and

3130
02:11:45,089 --> 02:11:43,179
the people with machine guns that's what

3131
02:11:46,919 --> 02:11:45,099
you need so that it's not so much that

3132
02:11:49,229 --> 02:11:46,929
even he has these huge crafts that he

3133
02:11:50,879 --> 02:11:49,239
has to maintain with her I that's my and

3134
02:11:52,319 --> 02:11:50,889
I'm just guessing it's just that he's

3135
02:11:53,909 --> 02:11:52,329
got to create a skip he's got to create

3136
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:53,919
a secure environment because now he's

3137
02:11:56,669 --> 02:11:55,360
working for the US government and the US

3138
02:11:59,159 --> 02:11:56,679
government is going to be done by the

3139
02:12:01,290 --> 02:11:59,169
book it's gonna be six seven layers of

3140
02:12:03,149 --> 02:12:01,300
paperwork and all this kind of stuff all

3141
02:12:05,100 --> 02:12:03,159
these rules and how to handle classified

3142
02:12:06,929 --> 02:12:05,110
material and everything has to be in a

3143
02:12:07,500 --> 02:12:06,939
you know a vault and you know all this

3144
02:12:08,729 --> 02:12:07,510
kind of stuff

3145
02:12:10,709 --> 02:12:08,739
so that's what I think that's about but

3146
02:12:13,020 --> 02:12:10,719
I'll tell you about my my understanding

3147
02:12:15,719 --> 02:12:13,030
of the metals there you gotta remember

3148
02:12:18,359 --> 02:12:15,729
that that all this material everything

3149
02:12:23,310 --> 02:12:18,369
is controlled by Bob Bigelow he's this

3150
02:12:25,799 --> 02:12:23,320
genius guy who basically was able to use

3151
02:12:27,989 --> 02:12:25,809
other people's money and get control is

3152
02:12:30,750 --> 02:12:27,999
almost like the guy in contact he

3153
02:12:33,870 --> 02:12:30,760
controls everything now all the UFO

3154
02:12:35,790 --> 02:12:33,880
reports the UFO hardware that that's

3155
02:12:38,189 --> 02:12:35,800
that's in private not they very highly

3156
02:12:40,169 --> 02:12:38,199
classified crash material but in terms

3157
02:12:44,279 --> 02:12:40,179
of the material that was gathered by a

3158
02:12:45,870 --> 02:12:44,289
tip all this kind of stuff but he's been

3159
02:12:47,370 --> 02:12:45,880
gathering this material for years and

3160
02:12:51,029 --> 02:12:47,380
years and years he had you know the

3161
02:12:56,790 --> 02:12:51,039
consciousness studies at un vite UNLV he

3162
02:12:58,830 --> 02:12:56,800
had needs he did the he financed a lot

3163
02:13:00,359 --> 02:12:58,840
of people he financed some abduction

3164
02:13:05,939 --> 02:13:00,369
research he brought up the carpenter

3165
02:13:07,350 --> 02:13:05,949
files he financed MUFON that's what my

3166
02:13:09,330 --> 02:13:07,360
name is coming from you fine he got

3167
02:13:13,319 --> 02:13:09,340
their files he got the Kane a files out

3168
02:13:15,750 --> 02:13:13,329
of out of BC so he gathered all this

3169
02:13:18,390 --> 02:13:15,760
material and has this this huge

3170
02:13:19,529 --> 02:13:18,400
collection of material so some of the

3171
02:13:21,449 --> 02:13:19,539
material that he's been working on

3172
02:13:23,279 --> 02:13:21,459
previous was metal material for example

3173
02:13:26,310 --> 02:13:23,289
Jacques Vallee who's always been very

3174
02:13:27,810 --> 02:13:26,320
close to needs weather who's getting

3175
02:13:29,609 --> 02:13:27,820
funding from Bigelow or whatever but

3176
02:13:32,939 --> 02:13:29,619
Jacques Vallee talks about the implants

3177
02:13:34,290 --> 02:13:32,949
the jaw the lire implants and he said I

3178
02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:34,300
was very skeptical and then when I

3179
02:13:38,580 --> 02:13:36,610
worked on them through Bigelow I guess

3180
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:38,590
they they did research or they they did

3181
02:13:42,340 --> 02:13:39,730
all this

3182
02:13:44,110 --> 02:13:42,350
metal research on the implants and then

3183
02:13:45,670 --> 02:13:44,120
he said I'm a lot less skeptical about

3184
02:13:47,980 --> 02:13:45,680
the implants so that will be one type of

3185
02:13:50,290 --> 02:13:47,990
metal the other one is the one that that

3186
02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:50,300
he'll put off is now he'll put off

3187
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:51,890
Jacques Fela is now running around

3188
02:13:55,540 --> 02:13:53,930
lecturing on and that is these things

3189
02:13:57,100 --> 02:13:55,550
where you have the UFOs that pretends

3190
02:13:58,570 --> 02:13:57,110
it's like a you know a bird with a

3191
02:14:00,010 --> 02:13:58,580
broken wing and it's sort of flipping

3192
02:14:01,750 --> 02:14:00,020
around and it's like it's gonna crash

3193
02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:01,760
and it shoots out the metal and this has

3194
02:14:05,710 --> 02:14:03,770
happened lots of times in history and

3195
02:14:07,540 --> 02:14:05,720
Jack ballet has collected all this metal

3196
02:14:09,340 --> 02:14:07,550
he's gathered these various stories

3197
02:14:11,050 --> 02:14:09,350
where the UFO shoots out this metal and

3198
02:14:12,490 --> 02:14:11,060
of course in the old days it was like oh

3199
02:14:14,380 --> 02:14:12,500
it's a hoax these people are just making

3200
02:14:16,570 --> 02:14:14,390
this up it's just aluminum it's just

3201
02:14:18,970 --> 02:14:16,580
this it's nickel and zinc it's whatever

3202
02:14:21,160 --> 02:14:18,980
and and then he did these analysis and

3203
02:14:22,900 --> 02:14:21,170
found these isotopes so this is going to

3204
02:14:24,550 --> 02:14:22,910
be part of probably part of the metal

3205
02:14:25,690 --> 02:14:24,560
that's part of that collection is these

3206
02:14:27,700 --> 02:14:25,700
things where he talks about these

3207
02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:27,710
isotopes are way out there out by like

3208
02:14:31,750 --> 02:14:29,810
30 percent or whatever and but then they

3209
02:14:32,830 --> 02:14:31,760
always go back it's the these the same

3210
02:14:35,140 --> 02:14:32,840
sort of thing it's the confirmation

3211
02:14:36,900 --> 02:14:35,150
thing it's the idea that these metals

3212
02:14:39,250 --> 02:14:36,910
don't prove anything this is not

3213
02:14:42,100 --> 02:14:39,260
extraterrestrial metal this is not et

3214
02:14:44,830 --> 02:14:42,110
metal this is meta meta materials it's

3215
02:14:47,560 --> 02:14:44,840
material that we cannot develop we

3216
02:14:50,590 --> 02:14:47,570
cannot produce we cannot produce these

3217
02:14:52,510 --> 02:14:50,600
type of isotopes today and therefore it

3218
02:14:54,250 --> 02:14:52,520
shows the same as the videos it shows

3219
02:14:56,320 --> 02:14:54,260
something very strange is going on but

3220
02:14:58,330 --> 02:14:56,330
it doesn't necessarily it's goes back to

3221
02:14:59,980 --> 02:14:58,340
this don't go to the alien thing it

3222
02:15:01,840 --> 02:14:59,990
doesn't necessarily mean that it's

3223
02:15:03,130 --> 02:15:01,850
extraterrestrial it just says that this

3224
02:15:05,520 --> 02:15:03,140
is very strange material that we can't

3225
02:15:08,110 --> 02:15:05,530
produce so you have those you have the

3226
02:15:09,730 --> 02:15:08,120
layered piece that Tom DeLonge talked

3227
02:15:11,770 --> 02:15:09,740
about I know if he talked about on your

3228
02:15:16,450 --> 02:15:11,780
show but he talked about this piece this

3229
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:16,460
80 levels 80 piece you know very thin

3230
02:15:21,460 --> 02:15:18,650
layers of metal layered on top of each

3231
02:15:23,860 --> 02:15:21,470
other and it was almost like the arts

3232
02:15:25,600 --> 02:15:23,870
parts that Linda worked on years ago

3233
02:15:27,220 --> 02:15:25,610
with the same sort of thing this layered

3234
02:15:28,600 --> 02:15:27,230
thing and he was supposed to showing up

3235
02:15:29,860 --> 02:15:28,610
at the Grove that was gonna they're

3236
02:15:31,960 --> 02:15:29,870
gonna have this meeting at the Grove

3237
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:31,970
that that surf at he was gonna run and

3238
02:15:35,050 --> 02:15:33,770
this metal was gonna show up there so

3239
02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:35,060
you have that piece of metal and that's

3240
02:15:38,170 --> 02:15:36,800
the one that they say have the weird

3241
02:15:39,460 --> 02:15:38,180
properties that helped put off this

3242
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:39,470
talked about it has these weird

3243
02:15:43,930 --> 02:15:41,690
properties that when you bombard it or

3244
02:15:44,980 --> 02:15:43,940
whatever it they think that it has

3245
02:15:47,020 --> 02:15:44,990
something to do it's a propulsion system

3246
02:15:48,670 --> 02:15:47,030
so you have that layered piece then you

3247
02:15:50,710 --> 02:15:48,680
have the piece with the with a New

3248
02:15:52,060 --> 02:15:50,720
Mexico one and I've actually got a piece

3249
02:15:52,870 --> 02:15:52,070
of this I was actually given a piece to

3250
02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:52,880
this this

3251
02:15:57,820 --> 02:15:55,370
a crash site and if you I know if you've

3252
02:16:00,280 --> 02:15:57,830
know about Diane pasola is one of the

3253
02:16:00,939 --> 02:16:00,290
people she just released a book and then

3254
02:16:02,410 --> 02:16:00,949
pasola

3255
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:02,420
was one of the people as part of this

3256
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:04,130
cosmic Club she got dragged into this

3257
02:16:09,490 --> 02:16:06,560
thing is sort of not what to the Stars

3258
02:16:10,959 --> 02:16:09,500
but sort of is dealing with all there's

3259
02:16:12,910 --> 02:16:10,969
a whole group of people that are sort of

3260
02:16:14,229 --> 02:16:12,920
on the edges of this thing watching

3261
02:16:15,879 --> 02:16:14,239
what's going on they're being given

3262
02:16:17,080 --> 02:16:15,889
material whatever she's a religion

3263
02:16:19,090 --> 02:16:17,090
professor at the University of North

3264
02:16:21,399 --> 02:16:19,100
Carolina and she tells this story about

3265
02:16:23,590 --> 02:16:21,409
a guy a Nassau guy this is an

3266
02:16:26,020 --> 02:16:23,600
experiencer guy that I refer to is he's

3267
02:16:27,490 --> 02:16:26,030
not outed himself yet but he takes her

3268
02:16:30,189 --> 02:16:27,500
he tells the story that he takes her to

3269
02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:30,199
a crash site in New Mexico and this is

3270
02:16:35,860 --> 02:16:32,450
not the Roswell crash site or the the

3271
02:16:38,259 --> 02:16:35,870
1945 paula harris site or any of those

3272
02:16:41,049 --> 02:16:38,269
sites this is a site where he takes her

3273
02:16:42,759 --> 02:16:41,059
and she's blindfolded with another

3274
02:16:44,679 --> 02:16:42,769
professor from the university of north

3275
02:16:46,060 --> 02:16:44,689
carolina and they they have to wear

3276
02:16:47,589 --> 02:16:46,070
these blindfolds and they take us to the

3277
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:47,599
camp remember the site was and I'm

3278
02:16:51,280 --> 02:16:49,610
thinking well I know where this comes

3279
02:16:53,679 --> 02:16:51,290
from because my friend here in Winnipeg

3280
02:16:57,700 --> 02:16:53,689
is the guy that showed the Nassau guy

3281
02:17:00,459 --> 02:16:57,710
where this site was and so I mean one of

3282
02:17:03,310 --> 02:17:00,469
my updates actually show metal from that

3283
02:17:05,740 --> 02:17:03,320
crash site and so that material I think

3284
02:17:07,690 --> 02:17:05,750
is is part of this collection at in this

3285
02:17:13,570 --> 02:17:07,700
in this warehouse this comes from this

3286
02:17:15,580 --> 02:17:13,580
site in in New Mexico which is I guess

3287
02:17:18,339 --> 02:17:15,590
it's still got metal there and the other

3288
02:17:22,589 --> 02:17:18,349
one is a piece that I've seen I've seen

3289
02:17:25,060 --> 02:17:22,599
photographs of that I was assured is

3290
02:17:26,679 --> 02:17:25,070
very very strange piece of material it

3291
02:17:28,389 --> 02:17:26,689
doesn't look very strange I mean it

3292
02:17:30,070 --> 02:17:28,399
doesn't look like anything it would be

3293
02:17:33,459 --> 02:17:30,080
off a spacecraft it looks pretty you

3294
02:17:35,259 --> 02:17:33,469
know bizarre melted type stuff but it

3295
02:17:37,450 --> 02:17:35,269
was assured because it was handed off by

3296
02:17:39,160 --> 02:17:37,460
the I believe by the Nassau guy to say

3297
02:17:40,839 --> 02:17:39,170
this this is a legitimate piece that's

3298
02:17:42,940 --> 02:17:40,849
been analyzed and and it's one of these

3299
02:17:44,740 --> 02:17:42,950
strange pieces but again it goes back to

3300
02:17:46,389 --> 02:17:44,750
what the Canadian said is this really

3301
02:17:48,459 --> 02:17:46,399
doesn't prove anything this just says

3302
02:17:50,469 --> 02:17:48,469
yes we are dealing with something very

3303
02:17:51,940 --> 02:17:50,479
very bizarre but I'll guarantee you when

3304
02:17:53,410 --> 02:17:51,950
they because justice is supposed to be

3305
02:17:54,790 --> 02:17:53,420
bringing out this piece and what the

3306
02:17:57,790 --> 02:17:54,800
piece I think they're gonna bring out is

3307
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:57,800
this layered piece of metal and that

3308
02:18:02,259 --> 02:17:59,840
where you has these strange properties

3309
02:18:04,209 --> 02:18:02,269
when you bombard it and it these

3310
02:18:05,950 --> 02:18:04,219
anti-gravity properties that is the

3311
02:18:06,700 --> 02:18:05,960
piece I think that they will be showing

3312
02:18:08,650 --> 02:18:06,710
and they've

3313
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:08,660
talked about showing that will make a

3314
02:18:12,969 --> 02:18:11,090
big hit in the the media will lap that

3315
02:18:14,620 --> 02:18:12,979
up and then they're gonna move it back

3316
02:18:16,330 --> 02:18:14,630
they're gonna walk the story back and

3317
02:18:18,040 --> 02:18:16,340
they're gonna say this this doesn't mean

3318
02:18:20,560 --> 02:18:18,050
it's alien this doesn't mean it's from

3319
02:18:22,810 --> 02:18:20,570
Zeta Reticuli it just says this is very

3320
02:18:24,400 --> 02:18:22,820
strange and and the you know the

3321
02:18:26,049 --> 02:18:24,410
Russians could get this before us and

3322
02:18:27,820 --> 02:18:26,059
the Chinese could get it before us and

3323
02:18:29,259 --> 02:18:27,830
we've got to spend some money and we've

3324
02:18:31,360 --> 02:18:29,269
got to get congressional hearings and

3325
02:18:33,190 --> 02:18:31,370
they go down that route that you know we

3326
02:18:36,070 --> 02:18:33,200
we need some attention to this but

3327
02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:36,080
they're not gonna go the alien thing for

3328
02:18:43,930 --> 02:18:40,010
a long long time as far as I'm aware is

3329
02:18:45,610 --> 02:18:43,940
there any word about because Doty came

3330
02:18:48,820 --> 02:18:45,620
on the show and and spoke about this

3331
02:18:53,290 --> 02:18:48,830
where he was he was briefed on Roswell

3332
02:18:57,040 --> 02:18:53,300
watched a film write documents is there

3333
02:19:01,120 --> 02:18:57,050
any word about that when when it comes

3334
02:19:03,520 --> 02:19:01,130
to moving forward here debris that was a

3335
02:19:05,259 --> 02:19:03,530
crashed you know is there is there

3336
02:19:08,410 --> 02:19:05,269
anything about Roswell

3337
02:19:10,270 --> 02:19:08,420
when this chatter floats around about

3338
02:19:14,379 --> 02:19:10,280
what we are going through now and the

3339
02:19:16,540 --> 02:19:14,389
Pentagon no no that's that's again if

3340
02:19:18,850 --> 02:19:16,550
you if you listen to help put off help

3341
02:19:21,790 --> 02:19:18,860
put off will say when when he makes

3342
02:19:24,339 --> 02:19:21,800
reference he says that's probably pretty

3343
02:19:26,110 --> 02:19:24,349
highly classified and he would know the

3344
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:26,120
rules he would know he may he may have

3345
02:19:29,799 --> 02:19:28,160
heard some stories about it he may have

3346
02:19:31,089 --> 02:19:29,809
been briefed on it but they ain't going

3347
02:19:33,310 --> 02:19:31,099
there because it always comes down to

3348
02:19:35,410 --> 02:19:33,320
the it's the idea that if you're in the

3349
02:19:37,870 --> 02:19:35,420
government if you're you've got a

3350
02:19:41,740 --> 02:19:37,880
government contract like Nolan has or

3351
02:19:43,150 --> 02:19:41,750
get green or put off if you release

3352
02:19:44,620 --> 02:19:43,160
classified material they pull your

3353
02:19:46,060 --> 02:19:44,630
clearance and you're out of business I

3354
02:19:47,650 --> 02:19:46,070
mean that's game over if you don't have

3355
02:19:49,630 --> 02:19:47,660
a security clearance so they're never

3356
02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:49,640
going to walk across that security line

3357
02:19:54,670 --> 02:19:52,010
so they know you can talk about this

3358
02:19:56,170 --> 02:19:54,680
this easy material this kind of stuff

3359
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:56,180
you're allowed to talk about it but you

3360
02:20:00,820 --> 02:19:59,120
don't go to this so that's why when when

3361
02:20:01,990 --> 02:20:00,830
he'll put off to this interview with

3362
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:02,000
George Knapp I was kind of surprised

3363
02:20:05,530 --> 02:20:03,530
when when he actually confirmed there

3364
02:20:07,360 --> 02:20:05,540
was a crash sauce there was a document

3365
02:20:08,890 --> 02:20:07,370
that is out there that's legitimate and

3366
02:20:11,680 --> 02:20:08,900
the other thing that he said that really

3367
02:20:13,750 --> 02:20:11,690
surprised me if he does have security

3368
02:20:15,070 --> 02:20:13,760
clearance is he said he was asked about

3369
02:20:16,810 --> 02:20:15,080
the Russians and Chinese because that's

3370
02:20:19,230 --> 02:20:16,820
the big height it's this threat thing

3371
02:20:22,350 --> 02:20:19,240
you know because if unless you say this

3372
02:20:24,270 --> 02:20:22,360
a threat unless you play that game

3373
02:20:26,551 --> 02:20:24,280
you're not gonna get any money who cares

3374
02:20:27,631 --> 02:20:26,561
you know about aliens or whatever the

3375
02:20:28,770 --> 02:20:27,641
only way you're going to get any money

3376
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:28,780
the only people have money is the

3377
02:20:31,801 --> 02:20:30,010
Defense Department's you guys say it's a

3378
02:20:33,930 --> 02:20:31,811
threat so what you're doing is you're

3379
02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:33,940
playing this game of we got to get it

3380
02:20:38,011 --> 02:20:35,530
before the Russians and he'll actually

3381
02:20:39,540 --> 02:20:38,021
admit it on this interview he was asked

3382
02:20:43,490 --> 02:20:39,550
about the Russians and he said yes I

3383
02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:43,500
know that I've seen detailed classified

3384
02:20:48,841 --> 02:20:46,960
reports on the Russian program and that

3385
02:20:50,430 --> 02:20:48,851
was a revelation I mean that helped put

3386
02:20:52,230 --> 02:20:50,440
off would say that I mean that's pretty

3387
02:20:54,270 --> 02:20:52,240
out there that there are actually

3388
02:20:56,370 --> 02:20:54,280
documents that detail the Russian

3389
02:20:57,631 --> 02:20:56,380
program which would again indicate that

3390
02:20:59,551 --> 02:20:57,641
we have a program no matter what they

3391
02:21:02,100 --> 02:20:59,561
say this is the only program and this is

3392
02:21:03,330 --> 02:21:02,110
you know just the only 10 years we've

3393
02:21:04,801 --> 02:21:03,340
been working on this and we have didn't

3394
02:21:06,480 --> 02:21:04,811
do anything this is absolutely nonsense

3395
02:21:08,310 --> 02:21:06,490
that that the government would not work

3396
02:21:08,910 --> 02:21:08,320
on this we it has to be highly

3397
02:21:10,711 --> 02:21:08,920
classified

3398
02:21:13,740 --> 02:21:10,721
especially the nuclear weapon thing to

3399
02:21:15,900 --> 02:21:13,750
say we aren't interested in a system

3400
02:21:18,091 --> 02:21:15,910
that could shut down all nuclear weapons

3401
02:21:19,020 --> 02:21:18,101
is absolutely insanity I mean no we

3402
02:21:20,580 --> 02:21:19,030
wouldn't want to know how to shut down

3403
02:21:22,620 --> 02:21:20,590
Russian nuclear missiles no we would

3404
02:21:23,700 --> 02:21:22,630
know that I mean they're of course

3405
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:23,710
they're working on this of course

3406
02:21:27,600 --> 02:21:25,210
they've got it and it's it comes down to

3407
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:27,610
this thing about levels of security that

3408
02:21:30,870 --> 02:21:29,290
you can talk about certain things and

3409
02:21:32,280 --> 02:21:30,880
that's where they're going they're

3410
02:21:34,320 --> 02:21:32,290
they're starting at the bottom and

3411
02:21:37,530 --> 02:21:34,330
they're gonna work their way up as this

3412
02:21:39,810 --> 02:21:37,540
thing develops but what they know all

3413
02:21:42,750 --> 02:21:39,820
these different guys they based upon

3414
02:21:44,761 --> 02:21:42,760
their experience with no little bits and

3415
02:21:46,830 --> 02:21:44,771
pieces I would say the main motivating

3416
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:46,840
factor for the people that I know is the

3417
02:21:50,461 --> 02:21:48,250
fact that they are experiences they've

3418
02:21:52,530 --> 02:21:50,471
had the beings in their room and they've

3419
02:21:54,631 --> 02:21:52,540
gotten downloads and they they know that

3420
02:21:56,070 --> 02:21:54,641
that this thing's for real and that sort

3421
02:21:59,461 --> 02:21:56,080
of drives a lot of the people that I

3422
02:22:01,290 --> 02:21:59,471
know in in the to the stars thing even

3423
02:22:03,570 --> 02:22:01,300
Tom DeLonge talks about this experience

3424
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:03,580
he had outside area 51 and you know what

3425
02:22:08,700 --> 02:22:05,280
it's like once you have an experience

3426
02:22:10,200 --> 02:22:08,710
it's pretty hard to to to let go of the

3427
02:22:11,671 --> 02:22:10,210
thing people will say oh this guy quit

3428
02:22:13,261 --> 02:22:11,681
the UFO community was always the joke

3429
02:22:14,910 --> 02:22:13,271
it's like oh don't worry he'll be back

3430
02:22:16,830 --> 02:22:14,920
you know it's like you can't leave I

3431
02:22:18,690 --> 02:22:16,840
mean once you've had an experience it

3432
02:22:20,430 --> 02:22:18,700
drags you in almost like that's part of

3433
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:20,440
the thing that the aliens because that's

3434
02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:22,210
people got to realize the aliens are

3435
02:22:25,921 --> 02:22:24,130
doing the same thing the aliens are not

3436
02:22:27,240 --> 02:22:25,931
disclosing if they want to disclose that

3437
02:22:29,011 --> 02:22:27,250
land on the White House lawn and tell us

3438
02:22:30,421 --> 02:22:29,021
what's going on and they're not covering

3439
02:22:32,520 --> 02:22:30,431
up because they want to cover up they

3440
02:22:33,210 --> 02:22:32,530
turn the lights off why do you always

3441
02:22:36,540 --> 02:22:33,220
have lights on

3442
02:22:38,219 --> 02:22:36,550
them they want you to see them if they

3443
02:22:40,050 --> 02:22:38,229
abduct people you don't see them when

3444
02:22:41,550 --> 02:22:40,060
they want to be seen they're seen so

3445
02:22:44,309 --> 02:22:41,560
they're playing the game and they're and

3446
02:22:45,690 --> 02:22:44,319
so all this may be actually part of an

3447
02:22:47,610 --> 02:22:45,700
alien thing where the aliens are

3448
02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:47,620
actually releasing this and that's what

3449
02:22:53,610 --> 02:22:51,010
this study shows that this 90 day eyes

3450
02:22:55,679 --> 02:22:53,620
only study shows that we really don't

3451
02:22:58,530 --> 02:22:55,689
know as much as people are playing that

3452
02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:58,540
we know that that even like you should

3453
02:23:01,769 --> 02:23:00,399
look at gypsum even where he talks about

3454
02:23:04,410 --> 02:23:01,779
the scientific method that we're gonna

3455
02:23:05,580 --> 02:23:04,420
analyze this thing oh we're gonna we're

3456
02:23:07,380 --> 02:23:05,590
gonna figure this out and he said the

3457
02:23:09,599 --> 02:23:07,390
idea that you can measure this thing is

3458
02:23:11,070 --> 02:23:09,609
laughable how do you define something

3459
02:23:13,559 --> 02:23:11,080
where there does not appear to be any

3460
02:23:15,540 --> 02:23:13,569
there there this has got to do with

3461
02:23:17,790 --> 02:23:15,550
consciousness and it multidimensionality

3462
02:23:20,099 --> 02:23:17,800
that is beyond our present science and

3463
02:23:22,830 --> 02:23:20,109
it starts to set up this this scenario

3464
02:23:24,479 --> 02:23:22,840
that maybe this thing is controlling the

3465
02:23:26,190 --> 02:23:24,489
whole thing that in fact semi van told

3466
02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:26,200
that to somebody he was asked who's

3467
02:23:30,330 --> 02:23:28,170
running the show and he said they are

3468
02:23:32,460 --> 02:23:30,340
basically like we really don't have any

3469
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:32,470
control over this this sort of thing and

3470
02:23:35,969 --> 02:23:34,450
they are sort of dealing out the cards

3471
02:23:37,920 --> 02:23:35,979
and they're letting us see like almost

3472
02:23:39,690 --> 02:23:37,930
like this metal they extrude this metal

3473
02:23:41,219 --> 02:23:39,700
out these crafts maybe they're actually

3474
02:23:42,750 --> 02:23:41,229
crashing on purpose maybe they're

3475
02:23:44,760 --> 02:23:42,760
actually giving out these metal they're

3476
02:23:46,679 --> 02:23:44,770
leaving us little bread crumbs to follow

3477
02:23:48,719 --> 02:23:46,689
and that they've done this on a thousand

3478
02:23:50,639 --> 02:23:48,729
planets before they know exactly how to

3479
02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:50,649
unravel this thing slowly but they're

3480
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:52,450
doing the same thing they're not doing

3481
02:23:56,820 --> 02:23:54,010
it fast they're doing the little drip

3482
02:23:59,340 --> 02:23:56,830
drip drip there's little clues do this

3483
02:24:00,840 --> 02:23:59,350
do that sabotage the witness they'll

3484
02:24:01,979 --> 02:24:00,850
telling a witness something and then

3485
02:24:03,479 --> 02:24:01,989
they'll tell him something that's wrong

3486
02:24:05,490 --> 02:24:03,489
and the guy looks like he's a fool

3487
02:24:07,469 --> 02:24:05,500
because he you know did the prediction

3488
02:24:08,910 --> 02:24:07,479
didn't turn out it's their play it's

3489
02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:08,920
almost the same game the government's

3490
02:24:12,719 --> 02:24:11,200
playing almost like the government has

3491
02:24:16,110 --> 02:24:12,729
watched what the aliens are doing and

3492
02:24:20,550 --> 02:24:16,120
are doing exactly the same thing and my

3493
02:24:24,450 --> 02:24:20,560
question is why you know if if that is

3494
02:24:27,300 --> 02:24:24,460
what you know we then say that that is

3495
02:24:30,210 --> 02:24:27,310
what is going on I don't need you have

3496
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:30,220
Charlie red star right I have my

3497
02:24:34,320 --> 02:24:32,410
sightings that I have had with hundreds

3498
02:24:37,050 --> 02:24:34,330
of witnesses standing next to me

3499
02:24:40,019 --> 02:24:37,060
videotape I've got it all to back it I

3500
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:40,029
don't need I don't need Tom DeLonge I

3501
02:24:43,740 --> 02:24:41,200
don't need the Pentagon

3502
02:24:46,770 --> 02:24:43,750
I don't need Trump I don't need anybody

3503
02:24:50,251 --> 02:24:46,780
to tell me that aliens are here

3504
02:24:53,730 --> 02:24:50,261
because I know that they are so why have

3505
02:24:55,230 --> 02:24:53,740
this back-and-forth disinfo thing like

3506
02:24:58,950 --> 02:24:55,240
you were just saying right take down a

3507
02:25:01,591 --> 02:24:58,960
witness and embarrass him but but allude

3508
02:25:03,120 --> 02:25:01,601
that this is real elude that this is

3509
02:25:06,091 --> 02:25:03,130
consciousness and it's beyond our

3510
02:25:09,030 --> 02:25:06,101
scientific and why not just come clean I

3511
02:25:11,100 --> 02:25:09,040
don't think the planet really cares one

3512
02:25:14,040 --> 02:25:11,110
way or another they're not gonna go into

3513
02:25:16,980 --> 02:25:14,050
shock you know just come clean who cares

3514
02:25:18,870 --> 02:25:16,990
I mean well I mean what if he's listened

3515
02:25:19,860 --> 02:25:18,880
to put off or he listened to Elizondo

3516
02:25:22,290 --> 02:25:19,870
they both talked about this thing

3517
02:25:23,730 --> 02:25:22,300
Elizondo was threatened I mean this is

3518
02:25:26,220 --> 02:25:23,740
what people don't realize with it with

3519
02:25:28,501 --> 02:25:26,230
the remote viewing program and this was

3520
02:25:30,900 --> 02:25:28,511
told to me by dr. Scott Jones who was

3521
02:25:32,881 --> 02:25:30,910
very close to the what was going on when

3522
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:32,891
it was shut down said the main reasons

3523
02:25:37,261 --> 02:25:34,210
that it shut down is because there are

3524
02:25:38,881 --> 02:25:37,271
very high-level people in the CIA who

3525
02:25:40,860 --> 02:25:38,891
believe this is demonic and it's the

3526
02:25:42,990 --> 02:25:40,870
same thing he'll put off from mentions

3527
02:25:45,780 --> 02:25:43,000
this fact that there are people inside

3528
02:25:47,790 --> 02:25:45,790
the the Pentagon there is a there's a

3529
02:25:49,320 --> 02:25:47,800
war going on you are not going to

3530
02:25:53,461 --> 02:25:49,330
release this because this is demonic

3531
02:25:54,900 --> 02:25:53,471
these UFO things that we we we think

3532
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:54,910
that everybody's going to go along and

3533
02:25:58,290 --> 02:25:56,410
that's where this this climatization

3534
02:25:59,700 --> 02:25:58,300
thing is they don't care about you and I

3535
02:26:01,591 --> 02:25:59,710
they know that you and I believe they're

3536
02:26:03,780 --> 02:26:01,601
not they're not here to to solve our

3537
02:26:08,600 --> 02:26:03,790
problems or to in you know crew with us

3538
02:26:11,160 --> 02:26:08,610
they're trying to get that very edge

3539
02:26:12,961 --> 02:26:11,170
that doesn't really believe it or that

3540
02:26:15,030 --> 02:26:12,971
that maybe have a religious thing and

3541
02:26:17,160 --> 02:26:15,040
they're trying to do it subconsciously

3542
02:26:18,990 --> 02:26:17,170
almost like a movie where you're like

3543
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:19,000
like if you're a CIA agent you want to

3544
02:26:22,470 --> 02:26:20,650
tell your story you put it into a movie

3545
02:26:24,600 --> 02:26:22,480
and you sort of you you put messages

3546
02:26:26,850 --> 02:26:24,610
through Hollywood and that's the main

3547
02:26:28,680 --> 02:26:26,860
reason even if you take chase Brandon

3548
02:26:30,570 --> 02:26:28,690
the guy that you know came out said

3549
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:30,580
Roswell was real as extraterrestrial and

3550
02:26:33,841 --> 02:26:32,410
there were bodies and he walks back in

3551
02:26:36,091 --> 02:26:33,851
the shadows and nobody even chases the

3552
02:26:37,921 --> 02:26:36,101
guy I mean where is where is chase

3553
02:26:40,051 --> 02:26:37,931
Brandon right now he was the liaison to

3554
02:26:42,150 --> 02:26:40,061
Hollywood for 10 years influencing

3555
02:26:44,011 --> 02:26:42,160
movies oh you're doing a CIA movie oh

3556
02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:44,021
cool we'd like to come to CIA we'd like

3557
02:26:47,310 --> 02:26:45,730
to help you out and of course they want

3558
02:26:49,470 --> 02:26:47,320
to manage the movie so you can either

3559
02:26:51,150 --> 02:26:49,480
kill everybody on the set or you manage

3560
02:26:53,220 --> 02:26:51,160
the movie and you move him worst chase

3561
02:26:55,381 --> 02:26:53,230
Brandon now he's still in Hollywood he's

3562
02:26:57,450 --> 02:26:55,391
a consultant in Hollywood now he's gone

3563
02:26:59,251 --> 02:26:57,460
from the white world CIA till the black

3564
02:27:00,661 --> 02:26:59,261
world CA so you're dropping this stuff

3565
02:27:02,671 --> 02:27:00,671
into movies and you're

3566
02:27:05,791 --> 02:27:02,681
doing it gradually because you have this

3567
02:27:08,281 --> 02:27:05,801
element inside the US government or in

3568
02:27:10,051 --> 02:27:08,291
in religious communities who don't want

3569
02:27:12,001 --> 02:27:10,061
any part of this and you're trying so

3570
02:27:13,771 --> 02:27:12,011
you're trying to move it's almost like

3571
02:27:15,781 --> 02:27:13,781
the election if you're running the

3572
02:27:17,731 --> 02:27:15,791
election you don't care about the

3573
02:27:20,071 --> 02:27:17,741
Democrats who cares you don't care about

3574
02:27:21,961 --> 02:27:20,081
the Republicans you you don't put ads to

3575
02:27:23,341 --> 02:27:21,971
them you go to the swing boaters you're

3576
02:27:25,381 --> 02:27:23,351
trying to find out the people that you

3577
02:27:26,821 --> 02:27:25,391
can move and you're slowly moving over

3578
02:27:30,451 --> 02:27:26,831
the swing voters I think it's the same

3579
02:27:32,791 --> 02:27:30,461
sort of issue it's not like you know

3580
02:27:34,470 --> 02:27:32,801
that that it's that they're good they're

3581
02:27:36,841 --> 02:27:34,480
gonna because you know with the same as

3582
02:27:38,581 --> 02:27:36,851
I that if you put an idea in the UFO

3583
02:27:41,041 --> 02:27:38,591
community you're not gonna convince

3584
02:27:42,511 --> 02:27:41,051
anybody everybody has their idea set as

3585
02:27:43,861 --> 02:27:42,521
to what's going on and it's the same

3586
02:27:47,071 --> 02:27:43,871
thing and in the public you have to

3587
02:27:49,171 --> 02:27:47,081
gradually move people across to the idea

3588
02:27:50,731 --> 02:27:49,181
that this thing's for real and then you

3589
02:27:53,191 --> 02:27:50,741
can move to the next step that you can't

3590
02:27:54,720 --> 02:27:53,201
that's in the Brookings Institute report

3591
02:27:56,220 --> 02:27:54,730
and and Bigelow I think hinted that

3592
02:27:57,901 --> 02:27:56,230
there was other reports it was not just

3593
02:28:00,361 --> 02:27:57,911
the Brookings Institute report there

3594
02:28:03,781 --> 02:28:00,371
were other reports that said if you drop

3595
02:28:06,180 --> 02:28:03,791
this thing the lower society disappears

3596
02:28:08,371 --> 02:28:06,190
and so they would look at these reports

3597
02:28:10,411 --> 02:28:08,381
and say you know we don't want to take a

3598
02:28:13,680 --> 02:28:10,421
chance I mean as built as Steven Greer

3599
02:28:14,731 --> 02:28:13,690
says politicians are gutless wonders

3600
02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:14,741
they're not going to do anything unless

3601
02:28:18,331 --> 02:28:16,690
they absolutely know for sure that it's

3602
02:28:20,551 --> 02:28:18,341
going to work out it's like kick it down

3603
02:28:21,871 --> 02:28:20,561
the road I mean or kick green says what

3604
02:28:23,430 --> 02:28:21,881
would you do if you had to run the thing

3605
02:28:25,771 --> 02:28:23,440
I mean would you just stand up and and

3606
02:28:27,361 --> 02:28:25,781
take the chance that that you know you

3607
02:28:29,511 --> 02:28:27,371
spill the milk and and it's all going to

3608
02:28:32,041 --> 02:28:29,521
go south are you gonna say well you know

3609
02:28:34,201 --> 02:28:32,051
drop a couple of stories let's drill in

3610
02:28:35,941 --> 02:28:34,211
another oil well and let's let's drag it

3611
02:28:37,501 --> 02:28:35,951
on because the military's going to come

3612
02:28:39,961 --> 02:28:37,511
to you and say well mr. president the

3613
02:28:41,851 --> 02:28:39,971
longer you leave this thing go the

3614
02:28:43,411 --> 02:28:41,861
better chance that we're going to be

3615
02:28:45,151 --> 02:28:43,421
able to fight this thing if it's evil

3616
02:28:47,430 --> 02:28:45,161
and the other thing is if you drop it

3617
02:28:49,051 --> 02:28:47,440
and you confirm to the Russians where

3618
02:28:52,021 --> 02:28:49,061
we're doing the research and the Chinese

3619
02:28:53,581 --> 02:28:52,031
you may give the Chinese may have 80% of

3620
02:28:56,611 --> 02:28:53,591
the story and you give the Chinese that

3621
02:28:59,341 --> 02:28:56,621
20% they they need and you don't have

3622
02:29:01,501 --> 02:28:59,351
the the whole story then suddenly the

3623
02:29:03,511 --> 02:29:01,511
Chinese run the whole show and it's been

3624
02:29:06,301 --> 02:29:03,521
general I don't think anybody denies

3625
02:29:09,180 --> 02:29:06,311
whoever gets this technology rules the

3626
02:29:12,871 --> 02:29:09,190
world well and well you know what we

3627
02:29:14,410 --> 02:29:12,881
could continue on forever I just love it

3628
02:29:15,939 --> 02:29:14,420
when you come on the show

3629
02:29:18,729 --> 02:29:15,949
Grint thank you so much for the

3630
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:18,739
conversation and have a safe trip down

3631
02:29:25,389 --> 02:29:21,770
here to Los Angeles and really excited

3632
02:29:27,550 --> 02:29:25,399
for LA to go out and and hear you and

3633
02:29:30,580 --> 02:29:27,560
and hang out with you for a couple of

3634
02:29:33,189 --> 02:29:30,590
nights here just again thank you for all

3635
02:29:35,380 --> 02:29:33,199
that you do grant and as soon as the

3636
02:29:37,029 --> 02:29:35,390
smoke clears over the next couple of

3637
02:29:39,399 --> 02:29:37,039
weeks we'll get you up back on fade to

3638
02:29:40,990 --> 02:29:39,409
black there's always much more to talk

3639
02:29:44,590 --> 02:29:41,000
about and we got to talk about that book

3640
02:29:45,700 --> 02:29:44,600
okay so yeah you're a music guy we'll do

3641
02:29:47,830 --> 02:29:45,710
music yeah exactly

3642
02:29:50,830 --> 02:29:47,840
I'll reread my book so I know what's

3643
02:29:53,500 --> 02:29:50,840
going on I'll reread it too thank you so

3644
02:29:55,269 --> 02:29:53,510
much grant be safe happy well now listen

3645
02:29:57,760 --> 02:29:55,279
I've got to talk to you tomorrow so pick

3646
02:29:59,830 --> 02:29:57,770
up the phone when I call okay okay okay

3647
02:30:02,889 --> 02:29:59,840
I'll talk to you thank you granny okay

3648
02:30:06,429 --> 02:30:02,899
grant Cameron what a great conversation

3649
02:30:08,740 --> 02:30:06,439
tonight and and and like I said he

3650
02:30:11,309 --> 02:30:08,750
centers me that's exactly what he does

3651
02:30:14,559 --> 02:30:11,319
he does it every time that he's on and

3652
02:30:16,599 --> 02:30:14,569
always pushing pushing the envelope and

3653
02:30:18,219 --> 02:30:16,609
the thing is with Grant has with every

3654
02:30:20,790 --> 02:30:18,229
guest that we have on the show he's

3655
02:30:23,290 --> 02:30:20,800
absolutely right listen to everybody

3656
02:30:27,490 --> 02:30:23,300
listen to everybody and if there's ever

3657
02:30:30,189 --> 02:30:27,500
a reason to be skeptical grant tells you

3658
02:30:32,290 --> 02:30:30,199
put on those skeptical glasses you just

3659
02:30:33,609 --> 02:30:32,300
got to do it that way all right I'm

3660
02:30:34,990 --> 02:30:33,619
gonna take a break right here when I

3661
02:30:37,510 --> 02:30:35,000
come back I'm gonna open up the phone

3662
02:30:40,330 --> 02:30:37,520
lines fantastic conversation with Grant

3663
02:30:43,510 --> 02:30:40,340
number one number two I'm stellar is

3664
02:30:45,670 --> 02:30:43,520
live did you get your screen name that

3665
02:30:49,149 --> 02:30:45,680
you wanted I'm watching everybody's post

3666
02:30:51,790 --> 02:30:49,159
right here on stellar dot-com go and get

3667
02:30:54,490 --> 02:30:51,800
your screen name register use the promo

3668
02:30:55,929 --> 02:30:54,500
code Jimmy and I want to thank Grant

3669
02:30:59,740 --> 02:30:55,939
Cameron for coming in I'm gonna open up

3670
02:31:05,889 --> 02:30:59,750
the phone lines 3 2 3 8 2 5 5 0 4 5 or 3

3671
02:31:08,920 --> 02:31:05,899
2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 big night tonight not

3672
02:31:12,160 --> 02:31:08,930
only with Grant but on stellar com is

3673
02:31:14,439 --> 02:31:12,170
live on stellar com promo coach Jimmy

3674
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:14,449
going get yourself your screen name I'll

3675
02:31:16,670 --> 02:31:15,610
be right back

3676
02:31:24,880 --> 02:31:16,680
[Applause]

3677
02:31:35,579 --> 02:31:33,280
[Music]

3678
02:31:39,130 --> 02:31:35,589
[Applause]

3679
02:31:41,710 --> 02:31:39,140
Hey biblical box here and you are

3680
02:31:46,960 --> 02:31:41,720
listening to my boy Jimmy Church on

3681
02:31:50,109 --> 02:31:46,970
Jimmy Church radio.com this my popular

3682
02:31:51,999 --> 02:31:50,119
opinion reading a book will not make you

3683
02:31:56,539 --> 02:31:52,009
smarter

3684
02:31:58,159 --> 02:31:56,549
but listening to Jimmy Church will so

3685
02:32:01,309 --> 02:31:58,169
you went to dinner last night you had

3686
02:32:04,550 --> 02:32:01,319
your favorite pasta or maybe you had a

3687
02:32:05,510 --> 02:32:04,560
heavy spicy meal in the left you get

3688
02:32:08,419 --> 02:32:05,520
that a dot-com

3689
02:32:11,689 --> 02:32:08,429
maybe you mowed down a huge steak and

3690
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all right welcome back fade to black

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have Neil Shubin Church hello to

3759
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everybody out there on YouTube tonight

3760
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very special night at grant Cameron in

3761
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here giving his insight and his take on

3762
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the Tom DeLonge recent release of this a

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third video and very interesting and

3764
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grant is is on top of his game and I've

3765
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opened up the phone lines three two

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go and read the white paper and look at

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this exciting and you can look at some

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around our community and it's built on

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the blockchain that's the other thing

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we're gonna have a token community and

3785
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the rewards are going to be there it's

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part of the future then this is the

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only is for our community like this it's

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big it's exciting but it's it's also the

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you've got the countdown clock to

3793
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everything as well as for me which is

3794
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really exciting is that the members of

3795
02:37:30,030 --> 02:37:27,090
our community that are already involved

3796
02:37:32,880 --> 02:37:30,040
are going to be listed I don't know if

3797
02:37:35,219 --> 02:37:32,890
they're up there yet but

3798
02:37:35,969 --> 02:37:35,229
when you see who was involved in who is

3799
02:37:38,550 --> 02:37:35,979
behind this

3800
02:37:42,059 --> 02:37:38,560
it's just gob you are gonna just be so

3801
02:37:43,349 --> 02:37:42,069
happy it is so exciting okay with that

3802
02:37:46,740 --> 02:37:43,359
let's go to the phones hi you're live on

3803
02:37:50,790 --> 02:37:46,750
fade to black who's calling hi Jimmy its

3804
02:37:54,500 --> 02:37:50,800
Marilyn hi Marilyn how are you I'm doing

3805
02:38:01,250 --> 02:37:56,820
no not yet

3806
02:38:03,630 --> 02:38:01,260
what go ahead register I'm still at work

3807
02:38:07,710 --> 02:38:03,640
all right all right what's on your mind

3808
02:38:10,620 --> 02:38:07,720
tonight um well the first thing I want

3809
02:38:13,889 --> 02:38:10,630
to say you always bring amazing guests

3810
02:38:17,130 --> 02:38:13,899
on your show thank you for that yes they

3811
02:38:20,639 --> 02:38:17,140
come in the second thing I want to talk

3812
02:38:24,210 --> 02:38:20,649
about something that grant was saying

3813
02:38:25,320 --> 02:38:24,220
everyone reminded me recently I had

3814
02:38:28,290 --> 02:38:25,330
asked my supervisor

3815
02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:28,300
well my supervisor was in the Air Force

3816
02:38:33,389 --> 02:38:31,210
and he was like a big top notch I don't

3817
02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:33,399
know whatever I don't know how that

3818
02:38:41,790 --> 02:38:38,050
works out right I asked him if he's ever

3819
02:38:45,150 --> 02:38:41,800
been to area 51 and you know he said I

3820
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:45,160
wanted to go he's like but I couldn't

3821
02:38:50,219 --> 02:38:47,680
because you have to be in some type of

3822
02:38:53,820 --> 02:38:50,229
program in order to do that and he's

3823
02:38:57,389 --> 02:38:53,830
like and it doesn't matter how high you

3824
02:38:59,580 --> 02:38:57,399
rank in the military like you just have

3825
02:39:02,030 --> 02:38:59,590
to be in a program and I was like what

3826
02:39:06,570 --> 02:39:02,040
do you mean he's like well they make

3827
02:39:08,940 --> 02:39:06,580
aircraft that I don't know I guess isn't

3828
02:39:15,059 --> 02:39:08,950
shown to the public I don't know it's

3829
02:39:17,160 --> 02:39:15,069
weird and he said that back in the 90s

3830
02:39:20,059 --> 02:39:17,170
that that supposedly

3831
02:39:23,040 --> 02:39:20,069
they were working on an aircraft the

3832
02:39:26,639 --> 02:39:23,050
f-117 I believe that's what he said

3833
02:39:29,250 --> 02:39:26,649
and he said that they would test it out

3834
02:39:31,860 --> 02:39:29,260
at night and it was that it had like

3835
02:39:34,080 --> 02:39:31,870
this triangular sheet form and he said

3836
02:39:37,290 --> 02:39:34,090
people would mistaken that for a UFO

3837
02:39:41,490 --> 02:39:37,300
crash mm-hmm yeah I'm sure they were I'm

3838
02:39:42,269 --> 02:39:41,500
sure they were the and especially back

3839
02:39:47,579 --> 02:39:42,279
then

3840
02:39:49,469 --> 02:39:47,589
when the f-117 the Nighthawk when it was

3841
02:39:51,389 --> 02:39:49,479
being tested first off it didn't even

3842
02:39:54,500 --> 02:39:51,399
look like a plane right it's it's a

3843
02:39:57,779 --> 02:39:54,510
black yeah it's a black diamond shaped

3844
02:39:59,579 --> 02:39:57,789
aircraft and testing that at night if

3845
02:40:01,649 --> 02:39:59,589
you happen to catch it because it's

3846
02:40:04,920 --> 02:40:01,659
black it would have been hard to see at

3847
02:40:08,329 --> 02:40:04,930
night but and if you did catch it you

3848
02:40:11,039 --> 02:40:08,339
would think it was pretty strange but

3849
02:40:13,349 --> 02:40:11,049
and I'm sure that there were a lot of

3850
02:40:15,229 --> 02:40:13,359
sightings around area 51 and also the

3851
02:40:18,420 --> 02:40:15,239
Mojave Desert out here in California

3852
02:40:21,149 --> 02:40:18,430
during that time where it could have

3853
02:40:24,269 --> 02:40:21,159
been confused as that also the b-2

3854
02:40:27,689 --> 02:40:24,279
stealth bomber same situation unique

3855
02:40:29,550 --> 02:40:27,699
shape and seeing that in in the sky

3856
02:40:33,000 --> 02:40:29,560
would definitely freak some people out

3857
02:40:34,109 --> 02:40:33,010
daytime or or at night because it would

3858
02:40:37,590 --> 02:40:34,119
be hard to see at night

3859
02:40:43,590 --> 02:40:37,600
so I agree I hear you on that point

3860
02:40:46,229 --> 02:40:43,600
but I I want to stay positive when it

3861
02:40:50,099 --> 02:40:46,239
comes to to the Stars Academy I do I

3862
02:40:54,090 --> 02:40:50,109
really want some movement to happen here

3863
02:40:55,920 --> 02:40:54,100
for us I don't care about me Marilyn I

3864
02:40:59,909 --> 02:40:55,930
care about the community I care about

3865
02:41:03,329 --> 02:40:59,919
the world and we I don't care who you

3866
02:41:07,710 --> 02:41:03,339
are what religion if you believe in UFOs

3867
02:41:09,269 --> 02:41:07,720
or not that are visiting this planet we

3868
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:09,279
all want to know if we're alone in this

3869
02:41:14,849 --> 02:41:11,770
universe you know and that's a that's an

3870
02:41:18,119 --> 02:41:14,859
important question and and I I think

3871
02:41:21,210 --> 02:41:18,129
that I know that our government knows

3872
02:41:24,479 --> 02:41:21,220
the answer to this question you know I

3873
02:41:27,389 --> 02:41:24,489
don't need I don't need it I'm speaking

3874
02:41:31,170 --> 02:41:27,399
about everybody else on this planet

3875
02:41:35,239 --> 02:41:31,180
ever since if you go back let I mean

3876
02:41:38,519 --> 02:41:35,249
seriously let's go back 10,000 years and

3877
02:41:41,609 --> 02:41:38,529
cro-magnon Neanderthal homo sapien

3878
02:41:43,319 --> 02:41:41,619
sapien walking around digging for seeds

3879
02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:43,329
trying to feed your family doing this

3880
02:41:48,229 --> 02:41:44,890
and at night you look up and you're

3881
02:41:50,849 --> 02:41:48,239
looking at the Stars and you don't

3882
02:41:52,109 --> 02:41:50,859
understand aliens or whatever you don't

3883
02:41:53,969 --> 02:41:52,119
but you know what you're looking out

3884
02:41:55,230 --> 02:41:53,979
there going wow that's kind of cool

3885
02:41:57,390 --> 02:41:55,240
I wonder what

3886
02:41:59,640 --> 02:41:57,400
out there you know and that that

3887
02:42:03,421 --> 02:41:59,650
question has been here since the very

3888
02:42:06,930 --> 02:42:03,431
beginning of mankind so you know what

3889
02:42:09,870 --> 02:42:06,940
quit quit putzing around you know the

3890
02:42:12,540 --> 02:42:09,880
truth right you know the truth so out

3891
02:42:15,091 --> 02:42:12,550
with it already we're not gonna freak

3892
02:42:18,301 --> 02:42:15,101
out we've been asking us the ourselves

3893
02:42:21,030 --> 02:42:18,311
this question forever so that's my take

3894
02:42:22,980 --> 02:42:21,040
you know and and that's it it's for the

3895
02:42:25,171 --> 02:42:22,990
community I don't need the answer I

3896
02:42:28,020 --> 02:42:25,181
don't need to hear it but everybody else

3897
02:42:32,190 --> 02:42:28,030
does so that's my take and I'm gonna

3898
02:42:34,470 --> 02:42:32,200
stick I'm gonna stick to it yeah I mean

3899
02:42:37,740 --> 02:42:34,480
I was just curious and see if he'd say

3900
02:42:41,610 --> 02:42:37,750
something like interesting you know like

3901
02:42:45,211 --> 02:42:41,620
conspiracy or whatever but you know but

3902
02:42:46,530 --> 02:42:45,221
I mean I I do take that week we are not

3903
02:42:49,290 --> 02:42:46,540
alone in this universe

3904
02:42:51,180 --> 02:42:49,300
well this is what I want this is what I

3905
02:42:53,730 --> 02:42:51,190
want you to do I'm gonna get to some

3906
02:42:56,131 --> 02:42:53,740
other calls but get registered on Han

3907
02:42:57,930 --> 02:42:56,141
stellar okay so you can go and get your

3908
02:43:00,740 --> 02:42:57,940
screen name and get it get it all set up

3909
02:43:03,900 --> 02:43:00,750
all right and tell your boss to do it to

3910
02:43:05,790 --> 02:43:03,910
use the promo code Jimmy don't forget

3911
02:43:07,620 --> 02:43:05,800
use the promo code Jimmy Thank You

3912
02:43:08,881 --> 02:43:07,630
Marilyn have a great safe rest of your

3913
02:43:13,350 --> 02:43:08,891
night we'll see you tomorrow night right

3914
02:43:16,200 --> 02:43:13,360
here Thank You Marilyn hi you're live

3915
02:43:18,660 --> 02:43:16,210
I'm fade to black who's calling it's

3916
02:43:20,250 --> 02:43:18,670
Eric the realtor from Los Angeles oh my

3917
02:43:22,860 --> 02:43:20,260
goodness how are you Eric

3918
02:43:26,100 --> 02:43:22,870
pretty good brother how you been I am

3919
02:43:29,780 --> 02:43:26,110
it's great to hear your voice well I

3920
02:43:31,801 --> 02:43:29,790
called in tonight because I want

3921
02:43:35,850 --> 02:43:31,811
hopefully more people to kind of

3922
02:43:39,631 --> 02:43:35,860
reinforce Cameron's point of view you

3923
02:43:40,890 --> 02:43:39,641
know just two minutes I'll tell you how

3924
02:43:44,430 --> 02:43:40,900
I feel about this and it's pretty much

3925
02:43:48,450 --> 02:43:44,440
exactly how he feels like you've got too

3926
02:43:50,850 --> 02:43:48,460
long and you've got Bigelow and they're

3927
02:43:52,770 --> 02:43:50,860
both rich guys who've accomplished a lot

3928
02:43:57,930 --> 02:43:52,780
who've gotten into this subject and

3929
02:43:58,711 --> 02:43:57,940
probably have discovered a lot Bigelow

3930
02:44:01,470 --> 02:43:58,721
went dark

3931
02:44:03,301 --> 02:44:01,480
and the lungs kind of tried to hit for

3932
02:44:06,000 --> 02:44:03,311
that light right he's trying to kind of

3933
02:44:08,849 --> 02:44:06,010
fill us in and the first stuff he's

3934
02:44:11,899 --> 02:44:08,859
revealed I think is kind of a

3935
02:44:16,409 --> 02:44:11,909
a big fart alright let's just say it but

3936
02:44:17,909 --> 02:44:16,419
it this this community people are seeing

3937
02:44:20,250 --> 02:44:17,919
such a rush first of all to call

3938
02:44:23,189 --> 02:44:20,260
themselves part of the community and I

3939
02:44:25,529 --> 02:44:23,199
think be careful about that because the

3940
02:44:28,439 --> 02:44:25,539
community is full of a lot of back

3941
02:44:31,139 --> 02:44:28,449
biters and in fighters and it's it's

3942
02:44:33,229 --> 02:44:31,149
swamp its swamp and it's a lot of swamp

3943
02:44:35,639 --> 02:44:33,239
creatures now it's a lot of good people

3944
02:44:38,969 --> 02:44:35,649
and it includes you and me and a lot of

3945
02:44:41,130 --> 02:44:38,979
other people but the bottom line is he's

3946
02:44:44,189 --> 02:44:41,140
chosen to kind of just fly over to swamp

3947
02:44:47,130 --> 02:44:44,199
and I think that's smart because if he

3948
02:44:51,119 --> 02:44:47,140
can get there Jimmy and he can cause

3949
02:44:52,830 --> 02:44:51,129
other people to go there and this

3950
02:44:55,409 --> 02:44:52,840
becomes kind of more of a mainstream

3951
02:44:57,750 --> 02:44:55,419
thing which I really feel it is becoming

3952
02:45:00,000 --> 02:44:57,760
that's good that's a good thing I don't

3953
02:45:02,580 --> 02:45:00,010
think a bunch of internet trolls are

3954
02:45:12,750 --> 02:45:02,590
going to reveal this trillion-dollar

3955
02:45:14,580 --> 02:45:12,760
secret do you know I'm wondering what

3956
02:45:19,380 --> 02:45:14,590
you meant by trolls because we've never

3957
02:45:22,469 --> 02:45:19,390
seen you know this guy so far we've got

3958
02:45:25,170 --> 02:45:22,479
a party of two that are non government

3959
02:45:27,210 --> 02:45:25,180
that have spent real money to kind of

3960
02:45:31,229 --> 02:45:27,220
try and figure this thing out

3961
02:45:33,659 --> 02:45:31,239
more than an iPad and you know some

3962
02:45:36,420 --> 02:45:33,669
connectivity right and that includes me

3963
02:45:39,119 --> 02:45:36,430
I haven't I've spent thousands of hours

3964
02:45:41,369 --> 02:45:39,129
okay when I'm not selling real estate or

3965
02:45:44,250 --> 02:45:41,379
out partying I've spent thousands of

3966
02:45:46,460 --> 02:45:44,260
hours researching it passively but not

3967
02:45:49,619 --> 02:45:46,470
really gotten active with my own cash

3968
02:45:53,519 --> 02:45:49,629
like I'm not employing all these people

3969
02:45:55,109 --> 02:45:53,529
I'm not spending a bunch of my own coin

3970
02:45:58,319 --> 02:45:55,119
and retirement to try to figure this

3971
02:46:00,000 --> 02:45:58,329
thing out and I just think that he

3972
02:46:03,059 --> 02:46:00,010
realized real quick he was going to be

3973
02:46:06,239 --> 02:46:03,069
savaged once once he went towards that

3974
02:46:08,460 --> 02:46:06,249
light and I'm kind of glad whatever his

3975
02:46:10,590 --> 02:46:08,470
results are even if it's being led down

3976
02:46:13,199 --> 02:46:10,600
a path that he's kind of flying over

3977
02:46:17,790 --> 02:46:13,209
swamp for now and avoidance swamp

3978
02:46:20,010 --> 02:46:17,800
creatures and my whole point is that we

3979
02:46:21,929 --> 02:46:20,020
should be encouraging this and and I

3980
02:46:22,540 --> 02:46:21,939
think that there's a lot of people in

3981
02:46:24,580 --> 02:46:22,550
the community

3982
02:46:26,440 --> 02:46:24,590
are they're trying to give the guy a

3983
02:46:28,179 --> 02:46:26,450
chance but I think there's a lot of

3984
02:46:30,760 --> 02:46:28,189
swamp creatures that came out real quick

3985
02:46:32,620 --> 02:46:30,770
and started savaging the guy and and

3986
02:46:35,080 --> 02:46:32,630
I'll admit the first stuff he put out

3987
02:46:36,610 --> 02:46:35,090
was kind of a I don't want to use the

3988
02:46:38,349 --> 02:46:36,620
real term I think but do you know went

3989
02:46:40,840 --> 02:46:38,359
over like a big fart yeah the bottom

3990
02:46:42,400 --> 02:46:40,850
line is yeah I want to say one more

3991
02:46:44,950 --> 02:46:42,410
thing okay schirmer's gonna say I love

3992
02:46:47,469 --> 02:46:44,960
Rita and I love you guys but the one

3993
02:46:49,809 --> 02:46:47,479
thing I want to leave you with is this

3994
02:46:52,330 --> 02:46:49,819
secret when it is revealed it's going to

3995
02:46:54,849 --> 02:46:52,340
come with free energy because what do we

3996
02:46:57,010 --> 02:46:54,859
think these space critters are flying

3997
02:47:00,730 --> 02:46:57,020
around with it's free energy and it's

3998
02:47:03,490 --> 02:47:00,740
unlimited energy do we want everybody in

3999
02:47:06,490 --> 02:47:03,500
the world to have a free unlimited

4000
02:47:09,160 --> 02:47:06,500
energy device and the ramifications that

4001
02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:09,170
come with that yeah yeah that's the more

4002
02:47:16,360 --> 02:47:11,930
interesting tank discussing that like do

4003
02:47:20,050 --> 02:47:16,370
we want other countries other

4004
02:47:23,500 --> 02:47:20,060
governments other crazy people in the

4005
02:47:27,190 --> 02:47:23,510
world to have are we ready for this free

4006
02:47:29,710 --> 02:47:27,200
energy in this and this you know are we

4007
02:47:32,080 --> 02:47:29,720
ready for it really I've spent a lot of

4008
02:47:34,750 --> 02:47:32,090
time on this Jimmy and mmm at first I

4009
02:47:37,360 --> 02:47:34,760
wanted I was Vanguard and I would you

4010
02:47:41,469 --> 02:47:37,370
know let's tell everybody man deeper you

4011
02:47:44,860 --> 02:47:41,479
get into it I'm not so sure anymore well

4012
02:47:49,870 --> 02:47:44,870
the battle over and the wars that have

4013
02:47:52,570 --> 02:47:49,880
been fought over oil land and territory

4014
02:47:55,210 --> 02:47:52,580
and then the the wars that have been

4015
02:47:57,700 --> 02:47:55,220
fought over the money that that controls

4016
02:48:03,969 --> 02:47:57,710
that agenda and you take that off of the

4017
02:48:07,960 --> 02:48:03,979
table you know what is the wars may stop

4018
02:48:12,400 --> 02:48:07,970
in Syria and Yemen and on the borders of

4019
02:48:13,960 --> 02:48:12,410
Saudi Arabia and Iraq in Libya right but

4020
02:48:17,050 --> 02:48:13,970
I'll tell you something else that

4021
02:48:18,099 --> 02:48:17,060
happens with that right okay we may stop

4022
02:48:21,520 --> 02:48:18,109
fighting over oil

4023
02:48:24,460 --> 02:48:21,530
we may have free energy but now what

4024
02:48:27,160 --> 02:48:24,470
happens to the economies of those

4025
02:48:29,980 --> 02:48:27,170
countries what happens to the economies

4026
02:48:33,820 --> 02:48:29,990
of our oil infrastructure and and the

4027
02:48:35,380 --> 02:48:33,830
jobs that are there if free energy gets

4028
02:48:36,220 --> 02:48:35,390
introduced all over the place and

4029
02:48:38,980 --> 02:48:36,230
suddenly you take

4030
02:48:40,751 --> 02:48:38,990
that off of the table you know and then

4031
02:48:42,701 --> 02:48:40,761
he so you have to back up from that well

4032
02:48:44,951 --> 02:48:42,711
then you're not spending money on oil

4033
02:48:47,320 --> 02:48:44,961
anymore so you can put that money into

4034
02:48:50,740 --> 02:48:47,330
other places well there's a whole

4035
02:48:53,770 --> 02:48:50,750
infrastructure and an economy that now

4036
02:48:56,081 --> 02:48:53,780
has to get set up based on the free

4037
02:49:00,341 --> 02:48:56,091
energy idea and that goes not only with

4038
02:49:01,990 --> 02:49:00,351
oil but electricity right and we're

4039
02:49:03,551 --> 02:49:02,000
already trying those are you took the

4040
02:49:05,440 --> 02:49:03,561
words right out of my mind and all I'm

4041
02:49:08,110 --> 02:49:05,450
saying is we've stopped fighting over

4042
02:49:10,661 --> 02:49:08,120
the old goo that powers our world and we

4043
02:49:13,720 --> 02:49:10,671
start fighting over the new goo whatever

4044
02:49:16,360 --> 02:49:13,730
that is space critters are using right

4045
02:49:18,400 --> 02:49:16,370
are fighting over that right let me tell

4046
02:49:21,850 --> 02:49:18,410
you it creates a whole new big kind of

4047
02:49:24,581 --> 02:49:21,860
bang and it'll be accessible it'll be

4048
02:49:27,791 --> 02:49:24,591
free it'll be what can a human being do

4049
02:49:31,211 --> 02:49:27,801
with unlimited source of energy right

4050
02:49:32,890 --> 02:49:31,221
that's frightening so my point is if one

4051
02:49:34,390 --> 02:49:32,900
starts to get real deep into this thing

4052
02:49:37,780 --> 02:49:34,400
and you really start asking the

4053
02:49:40,331 --> 02:49:37,790
questions more than who's in there who's

4054
02:49:43,451 --> 02:49:40,341
in that thing hey once you get past that

4055
02:49:45,461 --> 02:49:43,461
you start to think Jesus like what is

4056
02:49:47,560 --> 02:49:45,471
free energy it's unlimited right

4057
02:49:49,990 --> 02:49:47,570
everybody has that right they don't

4058
02:49:53,980 --> 02:49:50,000
necessarily buddy shares our ideals or

4059
02:49:56,680 --> 02:49:53,990
our uh our dream for peace you know so

4060
02:49:58,841 --> 02:49:56,690
my bottom line is that I get it and that

4061
02:50:01,720 --> 02:49:58,851
we don't I guess what I'd say is if we

4062
02:50:03,640 --> 02:50:01,730
don't blow ourselves up first then yes

4063
02:50:05,591 --> 02:50:03,650
we get to the new economy we get to the

4064
02:50:09,100 --> 02:50:05,601
new infrastructure we get to Star Trek

4065
02:50:11,291 --> 02:50:09,110
but like what if it makes it to where we

4066
02:50:12,671 --> 02:50:11,301
don't get there right right right just

4067
02:50:15,640 --> 02:50:12,681
leave the audience with that question

4068
02:50:17,621 --> 02:50:15,650
and Rita I love you and I love you too

4069
02:50:19,211 --> 02:50:17,631
Jimmy yeah thank you Eric all great

4070
02:50:21,490 --> 02:50:19,221
points have a great safe night we'll see

4071
02:50:23,680 --> 02:50:21,500
you tomorrow night right here thank you

4072
02:50:26,350 --> 02:50:23,690
my brother bye thank you Eric those are

4073
02:50:29,770 --> 02:50:26,360
really really really really honest very

4074
02:50:32,161 --> 02:50:29,780
smart points that he's bringing up let

4075
02:50:35,711 --> 02:50:32,171
me back up to his first point though

4076
02:50:38,470 --> 02:50:35,721
when it comes to Tom DeLonge and to the

4077
02:50:41,591 --> 02:50:38,480
stars let me tell you one thing I am

4078
02:50:45,940 --> 02:50:41,601
really happy about when it comes to the

4079
02:50:50,139 --> 02:50:45,950
long are you ready I am happy that he

4080
02:50:54,880 --> 02:50:50,149
wants to spend his money on a big

4081
02:50:56,859 --> 02:50:54,890
our firm okay he is hired I'm not gonna

4082
02:51:00,279 --> 02:50:56,869
say who and I'm not gonna get into that

4083
02:51:03,489 --> 02:51:00,289
but he has got a big PR firm behind him

4084
02:51:06,849 --> 02:51:03,499
that is pushing this agenda out there

4085
02:51:09,309 --> 02:51:06,859
and I thank him for that for spending

4086
02:51:12,099 --> 02:51:09,319
that money spending the shareholders

4087
02:51:14,620 --> 02:51:12,109
money on that maybe some of that some

4088
02:51:19,840 --> 02:51:14,630
boy came out of his own pocket but it

4089
02:51:22,630 --> 02:51:19,850
has put it out onto CNN Fox BBC RT New

4090
02:51:28,120 --> 02:51:22,640
York Times Washington Post and every

4091
02:51:33,010 --> 02:51:28,130
other BBC ever sky every news media

4092
02:51:36,040 --> 02:51:33,020
outlet online and on on TV and satellite

4093
02:51:38,949 --> 02:51:36,050
in the world and and has brought that

4094
02:51:41,229 --> 02:51:38,959
awareness to the front of everything and

4095
02:51:43,569 --> 02:51:41,239
made it a point of discussion no matter

4096
02:51:46,630 --> 02:51:43,579
how much they have stumbled or how much

4097
02:51:48,670 --> 02:51:46,640
they have messed it up at least it is

4098
02:51:51,099 --> 02:51:48,680
out there and being discussed and I'm

4099
02:51:52,870 --> 02:51:51,109
glad he spent the money on it so there

4100
02:51:54,969 --> 02:51:52,880
you go and I'm being serious too you

4101
02:51:57,159 --> 02:51:54,979
need to look at it in those terms let's

4102
02:52:03,219 --> 02:51:57,169
go to the UK Heidi Neill is on the line

4103
02:52:05,109 --> 02:52:03,229
Heidi how are you how are you a great

4104
02:52:07,210 --> 02:52:05,119
show but it's even better that you're

4105
02:52:13,420 --> 02:52:07,220
calling with that absolutely fabulous

4106
02:52:17,969 --> 02:52:13,430
accent just say tea and biscuits for me

4107
02:52:24,790 --> 02:52:20,739
team biscuits tea and biscuits how are

4108
02:52:27,460 --> 02:52:24,800
you Heidi I'm super excited about on

4109
02:52:29,710 --> 02:52:27,470
Stella I couldn't be more excited you

4110
02:52:32,649 --> 02:52:29,720
have no idea yeah we're pretty excited

4111
02:52:36,340 --> 02:52:32,659
around here and watching everybody in in

4112
02:52:41,769 --> 02:52:36,350
Twitter posting their screen names and

4113
02:52:45,269 --> 02:52:41,779
their screens Wow what support you guys

4114
02:52:48,689 --> 02:52:45,279
you're legends all of you really yeah I

4115
02:52:52,029 --> 02:52:48,699
like to say on behalf of Billy Carson

4116
02:52:54,699 --> 02:52:52,039
again thank you you're awesome he's he's

4117
02:52:57,639 --> 02:52:54,709
getting so much great feedback from the

4118
02:53:00,760 --> 02:52:57,649
interview thanks you Jimmy he loves you

4119
02:53:02,949 --> 02:53:00,770
guys I'm doing a little project with him

4120
02:53:03,741 --> 02:53:02,959
but I can't say too much about that just

4121
02:53:05,631 --> 02:53:03,751
Josh

4122
02:53:07,161 --> 02:53:05,641
and I want to do a shout out will not

4123
02:53:10,220 --> 02:53:07,171
shout out but it's a call-out really a

4124
02:53:14,151 --> 02:53:10,230
call to arms myself enjoying summer

4125
02:53:16,881 --> 02:53:14,161
skills the et newsroom sure her more

4126
02:53:18,341 --> 02:53:16,891
than me but I you know me on assist it's

4127
02:53:21,651 --> 02:53:18,351
like I do

4128
02:53:24,951 --> 02:53:21,661
we're calling out for any experiences

4129
02:53:26,390 --> 02:53:24,961
that are musicians I mean a know Grant

4130
02:53:28,131 --> 02:53:26,400
Cameron is obviously that's his feel

4131
02:53:32,060 --> 02:53:28,141
we're talking to him as well about it

4132
02:53:35,691 --> 02:53:32,070
obviously we're basically putting in an

4133
02:53:37,581 --> 02:53:35,701
album together of experiences so like

4134
02:53:40,310 --> 02:53:37,591
songs that they've written with regard

4135
02:53:41,691 --> 02:53:40,320
to what they went through Italy etc and

4136
02:53:43,310 --> 02:53:41,701
I'm just wondering if anybody knows

4137
02:53:44,991 --> 02:53:43,320
anybody I mean obviously I've got a few

4138
02:53:47,480 --> 02:53:45,001
context and I've put the shout-out out

4139
02:53:48,951 --> 02:53:47,490
there but if anybody can send me

4140
02:53:51,051 --> 02:53:48,961
anything that would be absolutely

4141
02:53:53,720 --> 02:53:51,061
remarkable we've got a few already

4142
02:53:56,781 --> 02:53:53,730
listed but the more the merrier sort of

4143
02:53:59,211 --> 02:53:56,791
thing right on and the the proceeds from

4144
02:54:00,321 --> 02:53:59,221
it when it's when it's made he's

4145
02:54:02,361 --> 02:54:00,331
actually going to go to something

4146
02:54:05,001 --> 02:54:02,371
towards something that Joanne's put

4147
02:54:08,691 --> 02:54:05,011
together because a lot of people that

4148
02:54:11,180 --> 02:54:08,701
have been through any sort of come all

4149
02:54:14,961 --> 02:54:11,190
of them that have had bad experiences

4150
02:54:17,991 --> 02:54:14,971
have basically had their lives put into

4151
02:54:20,060 --> 02:54:18,001
turmoil and quite often been left with

4152
02:54:23,091 --> 02:54:20,070
nothing so it's going to be sort of like

4153
02:54:24,711 --> 02:54:23,101
a support fund for those people that are

4154
02:54:27,051 --> 02:54:24,721
suffering I know it shouldn't be that

4155
02:54:30,381 --> 02:54:27,061
way but there are people right that has

4156
02:54:32,631 --> 02:54:30,391
friends family their livelihoods as I'm

4157
02:54:33,980 --> 02:54:32,641
sure you've heard through going through

4158
02:54:35,720 --> 02:54:33,990
something like this so that's what we're

4159
02:54:38,211 --> 02:54:35,730
trying to put together so if you know

4160
02:54:40,220 --> 02:54:38,221
anybody or anybody knows anybody please

4161
02:54:44,841 --> 02:54:40,230
feel free to get hold of myself or

4162
02:54:48,350 --> 02:54:44,851
Joanne at info at the ET newsroom comm

4163
02:54:50,031 --> 02:54:48,360
yeah be more come from me my way as you

4164
02:54:53,151 --> 02:54:50,041
know I've got plenty fingers in plenty

4165
02:54:55,281 --> 02:54:53,161
of parties I know totally totally well

4166
02:54:57,470 --> 02:54:55,291
do me a favor Heidi bust that out on

4167
02:55:01,191 --> 02:54:57,480
Twitter one more time so I can see it

4168
02:55:02,571 --> 02:55:01,201
and I'll retweet and we'll get it out

4169
02:55:06,201 --> 02:55:02,581
there we'll get it out there on Facebook

4170
02:55:11,979 --> 02:55:06,211
and then soon we'll be posting this

4171
02:55:17,130 --> 02:55:15,050
I've never had to do a bio on myself

4172
02:55:24,519 --> 02:55:17,140
[Music]

4173
02:55:27,670 --> 02:55:24,529
talking about what-what-what-what screen

4174
02:55:30,550 --> 02:55:27,680
name are you just using Heidi meal now I

4175
02:55:34,359 --> 02:55:30,560
tried to use my Heidi underscore TTFN my

4176
02:55:35,889 --> 02:55:34,369
YouTube and on the chatroom and name but

4177
02:55:38,369 --> 02:55:35,899
it wouldn't let me use the underscore so

4178
02:55:41,469 --> 02:55:38,379
I'm actually just using my Selina philia

4179
02:55:43,059 --> 02:55:41,479
which I use on on Twitter so but it's

4180
02:55:44,469 --> 02:55:43,069
gonna be the same profile picture which

4181
02:55:47,979 --> 02:55:44,479
I use across the board so people who

4182
02:55:49,449 --> 02:55:47,989
recognize me sure yeah but yeah super

4183
02:55:51,099 --> 02:55:49,459
excited about this really really

4184
02:55:54,069 --> 02:55:51,109
exciting it's not fair you guys have

4185
02:55:56,050 --> 02:55:54,079
done life before we have yeah that's

4186
02:56:05,109 --> 02:55:56,060
right I didn't even think about that

4187
02:56:06,399 --> 02:56:05,119
well so it goes yeah right right did you

4188
02:56:11,979 --> 02:56:06,409
just say that Boop

4189
02:56:14,559 --> 02:56:11,989
okay oh I got you I got you but yeah

4190
02:56:18,399 --> 02:56:14,569
this is exciting and I'm looking here

4191
02:56:20,019 --> 02:56:18,409
and we're up to if this is accurate

4192
02:56:21,510 --> 02:56:20,029
we've got a hundred and twenty eight

4193
02:56:26,139 --> 02:56:21,520
thousand nine hundred and eighteen

4194
02:56:29,079 --> 02:56:26,149
registered so far and considering that

4195
02:56:32,679 --> 02:56:29,089
we started off at zero and it just hits

4196
02:56:35,050 --> 02:56:32,689
so fast and so quick but but looking at

4197
02:56:38,199 --> 02:56:35,060
this that that's great that our audience

4198
02:56:41,289 --> 02:56:38,209
is that got wind of it first

4199
02:56:42,880 --> 02:56:41,299
you know flocked and when and and did

4200
02:56:46,329 --> 02:56:42,890
this but I'm just so excited for the

4201
02:56:48,519 --> 02:56:46,339
community and it's gonna be such a

4202
02:56:50,199 --> 02:56:48,529
breath of fresh air you know not to be

4203
02:56:52,719 --> 02:56:50,209
have stuff censored and you're talking

4204
02:56:54,729 --> 02:56:52,729
to people that you know don't look at

4205
02:56:57,039 --> 02:56:54,739
you as if you're nuts when you you post

4206
02:56:59,109 --> 02:56:57,049
some of this I mean you as I say you

4207
02:57:01,960 --> 02:56:59,119
know mail and the stuff that I post and

4208
02:57:03,880 --> 02:57:01,970
I'm a promoter and all you see on my on

4209
02:57:05,859 --> 02:57:03,890
my timeline is is stuff about

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conferences and radio shows and movies

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02:57:11,710 --> 02:57:07,789
mm-hmm oh it's the stuff like that and

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Chris mark brings over here that I'm

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02:57:15,849 --> 02:57:14,060
connected with I'm sure they've also

4214
02:57:17,319 --> 02:57:15,859
sort of like unfollow me because they're

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02:57:19,059 --> 02:57:17,329
really not interested in their subject

4216
02:57:22,800 --> 02:57:19,069
so it's it's going to be such a perfect

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02:57:25,060 --> 02:57:22,810
platform for focused thoughts and

4218
02:57:27,040 --> 02:57:25,070
experts and just share

4219
02:57:29,830 --> 02:57:27,050
the stuff that we're free to share

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02:57:34,090 --> 02:57:29,840
finally I'm so excited of knowledge it

4221
02:57:35,050 --> 02:57:34,100
yeah it's gonna be so cool and I can't

4222
02:57:38,080 --> 02:57:35,060
even believe

4223
02:57:41,620 --> 02:57:38,090
well the ICL launches here in just two

4224
02:57:44,560 --> 02:57:41,630
weeks 15 days there's that part but then

4225
02:57:48,670 --> 02:57:44,570
we go big and launch the platform itself

4226
02:57:51,820 --> 02:57:48,680
in quarter three and by my math that's

4227
02:57:54,310 --> 02:57:51,830
like a three months away so we're here I

4228
02:57:57,280 --> 02:57:54,320
mean that's it there there's no turning

4229
02:58:00,150 --> 02:57:57,290
back and and this is going to be just an

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02:58:02,860 --> 02:58:00,160
amazing amazing time not only for

4231
02:58:07,030 --> 02:58:02,870
ufology but I'm just excited for our

4232
02:58:09,660 --> 02:58:07,040
community in general because this having

4233
02:58:12,310 --> 02:58:09,670
something like this Heidi that is

4234
02:58:14,261 --> 02:58:12,320
forward-thinking you know having the

4235
02:58:17,640 --> 02:58:14,271
blockchain in social media having the

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02:58:21,310 --> 02:58:17,650
first new social media platform

4237
02:58:24,880 --> 02:58:21,320
launching this big but is for our

4238
02:58:27,550 --> 02:58:24,890
community and and for for the first time

4239
02:58:30,280 --> 02:58:27,560
we're able to just unite and and and and

4240
02:58:32,590 --> 02:58:30,290
have something this big this important

4241
02:58:35,620 --> 02:58:32,600
done for the community and that's what

4242
02:58:38,710 --> 02:58:35,630
I'm so happy about I couldn't be happier

4243
02:58:41,800 --> 02:58:38,720
myself and Rita the the the work that

4244
02:58:43,660 --> 02:58:41,810
everybody at on stellar has put into

4245
02:58:46,540 --> 02:58:43,670
this and I'm speaking around the world

4246
02:58:48,730 --> 02:58:46,550
and across the board the team is has

4247
02:58:52,210 --> 02:58:48,740
been so committed and to have these

4248
02:58:54,340 --> 02:58:52,220
technical people that are have designed

4249
02:58:56,650 --> 02:58:54,350
the site and and the investors and the

4250
02:58:59,880 --> 02:58:56,660
people that are behind it are they know

4251
02:59:02,440 --> 02:58:59,890
more about UFOs than you do Heidi

4252
02:59:04,150 --> 02:59:02,450
it'll trip you out you know and it's

4253
02:59:07,810 --> 02:59:04,160
just like okay this is real they are

4254
02:59:11,530 --> 02:59:07,820
actually involved and they have the same

4255
02:59:17,380 --> 02:59:11,540
commitment to this as I do or you do or

4256
02:59:21,310 --> 02:59:17,390
anybody else in our community so and

4257
02:59:24,011 --> 02:59:21,320
when I went along to the erich von

4258
02:59:27,280 --> 02:59:24,021
daniken night at the BAFTAs in london

4259
02:59:30,370 --> 02:59:27,290
last year mm-hmm in my usual fashion i

4260
02:59:32,590 --> 02:59:30,380
turned up two hours early like I do and

4261
02:59:33,970 --> 02:59:32,600
rolled my favs up and got involved in is

4262
02:59:36,520 --> 02:59:33,980
that working for the evening and you

4263
02:59:38,389 --> 02:59:36,530
could see I mean that was one big event

4264
02:59:40,699 --> 02:59:38,399
I mean to be held at the BAFTAs in

4265
02:59:41,630 --> 02:59:40,709
London that is a pretty huge deal huge

4266
02:59:44,239 --> 02:59:41,640
deal yeah

4267
02:59:46,279 --> 02:59:44,249
and so the minute I started dealing with

4268
02:59:48,260 --> 02:59:46,289
working with working alongside however

4269
02:59:51,170 --> 02:59:48,270
you want to say it with these guys and

4270
02:59:53,960 --> 02:59:51,180
and they but it's so professionally done

4271
02:59:57,349 --> 02:59:53,970
it's it's just over impressive uber

4272
03:00:00,019 --> 02:59:57,359
impressive and to be involved at the

4273
03:00:02,210 --> 03:00:00,029
base level is just you know you feel so

4274
03:00:04,849 --> 03:00:02,220
privileged everybody that signing up

4275
03:00:06,439 --> 03:00:04,859
today should feel should feel privileged

4276
03:00:10,699 --> 03:00:06,449
we are sort of a part of history

4277
03:00:13,219 --> 03:00:10,709
effectively and and that's and that's my

4278
03:00:16,099 --> 03:00:13,229
point Heidi I gotta go I got a close the

4279
03:00:18,050 --> 03:00:16,109
show and roll credits here but thank you

4280
03:00:19,460 --> 03:00:18,060
so much for everything in your support

4281
03:00:21,050 --> 03:00:19,470
and we'll see you tomorrow night right

4282
03:00:25,489 --> 03:00:21,060
here on fade to black Thank You Heidi

4283
03:00:28,000 --> 03:00:25,499
Thank You Heidi Neil live from the UK

4284
03:00:31,069 --> 03:00:28,010
giving us the on stellar updates and

4285
03:00:33,319 --> 03:00:31,079
have you registered you go and you

4286
03:00:35,659 --> 03:00:33,329
register and then you get to go back and

4287
03:00:38,569 --> 03:00:35,669
choose your screen name make it all

4288
03:00:42,439 --> 03:00:38,579
happen be a part of history on stellar

4289
03:00:44,120 --> 03:00:42,449
dot-com promo code Jimmy like I said

4290
03:00:44,510 --> 03:00:44,130
last night on the show and I really mean

4291
03:00:47,479 --> 03:00:44,520
this

4292
03:00:49,699 --> 03:00:47,489
you will remember where you were the day

4293
03:00:50,479 --> 03:00:49,709
that I'm stellar launched and that day

4294
03:00:53,210 --> 03:00:50,489
is today

4295
03:00:56,059 --> 03:00:53,220
on stellar dot-com thank you to grant

4296
03:00:58,099 --> 03:00:56,069
Cameron Heidi Neil the best

4297
03:01:00,349 --> 03:00:58,109
this is fade to black I'm your host

4298
03:01:01,880 --> 03:01:00,359
Jimmy Church betablox executive

4299
03:01:03,800 --> 03:01:01,890
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03:01:05,989 --> 03:01:03,810
produced by Holmes Jay Paul Renee Dennis

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and Bob announces our Steve our dojin

4302
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4303
03:01:14,000 --> 03:01:11,189
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03:01:17,149 --> 03:01:14,010
boys space boy music calm fade to black

4305
03:01:19,819 --> 03:01:17,159
is produced by kjsurya and syndication

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03:01:21,889 --> 03:01:19,829
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03:01:23,750 --> 03:01:21,899
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03:01:24,679 --> 03:01:23,760
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03:01:28,460 --> 03:01:26,880
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03:01:30,679 --> 03:01:28,470
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03:01:32,269 --> 03:01:30,689
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03:01:34,130 --> 03:01:32,279
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03:01:38,569 --> 03:01:34,140
network i'm your host jimmy church

4315
03:01:40,219 --> 03:01:38,579
tomorrow night radio host Tim Ray joins

4316
03:01:43,069 --> 03:01:40,229
the show you're not gonna want to miss

4317
03:01:43,729 --> 03:01:43,079
that until tomorrow night everybody be

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03:01:51,780 --> 03:01:43,739
safe

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[Applause]